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Post by tasadarthemadbear on Oct 14, 2017 3:28:33 GMT
I started with the Skorne battle box, so I have Xekaar as my only warlock. I have bought a Bronzeback, 2 titans, an agonizer, krea, and beast handlers since and have had several games with this so far. I am wondering which warlock will work best with this brick-style army? I feel this would be the easiest way to change thing up with out buying a whole new army.
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zich
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Post by zich on Oct 14, 2017 3:39:58 GMT
Easily Xerxis2. He fixes their main weakness just by being their boss. SPD6 Titans are a LOT better than SPD4 Titans.
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Post by gobber on Oct 14, 2017 3:45:53 GMT
If you're looking for a less expensive warlock swap, Zaadesh 2 does it quite well with the imperial warhost titan brick. Clouds+countercharge+hyper aggressive+defensive strike is very hard to get through. IR+free aggy's make for a very durable titan sentry or animantarax.
Naaresh and Morg1 are other options.
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Post by tasadarthemadbear on Oct 14, 2017 4:18:36 GMT
Xerxis2 seems like a great choice, but I am looking for a cheaper alternative atm. Morghoul1 and Zaadesh2 were the two I was considering, but I missed Naaresh! I'm going just off of battlecollege, so can someone please explain his feat a little clearer; is it +1 STR and ARM per aspect damaged?
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zich
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Post by zich on Oct 14, 2017 7:16:47 GMT
It is. So ideally +3 each. Out of those you mentioned I recommend Zaadesh2. He's tons of fun.
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Post by far2casual on Oct 14, 2017 7:19:19 GMT
Zaadesh2 makes an incredible Titan brick that is downright insane to handle.
Variations are possible, with no BE and a third Sentry, or with two BEs and only one Sentry.
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Post by tasadarthemadbear on Oct 14, 2017 8:01:57 GMT
That looks very close to what I run, just at 50pts. Why 2 Agonizers instead of 2 krea?
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Post by cassus on Oct 14, 2017 12:13:48 GMT
That looks very close to what I run, just at 50pts. Why 2 Agonizers instead of 2 krea? If your running straight best brick army a Krea wont do to much for you especially if your castor does not need to worry about being assassinated at range, Zaadesh2 has sack pawn so he pretty much cant be shot off the table. Yes it raises our def and armor by +2 but def12 is still pretty bad and while armor 21 (assuming a base gladiator) is pretty hard to handle you probably wont loose more than one beast on the approach anyway. The agonizer however makes you insanely hard to remove in melee especially for jacks or bests that specialize in ranged attacks. My 75pts IWH list with Zaadesh2 runs 3 agonizers to make sure my army is always covered by its -2 str aura. |
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Post by tasadarthemadbear on Oct 14, 2017 19:30:21 GMT
At 50 points, using IWH theme, I can take 2 freebies. Would 1 of each the Agonizer and Krea still be recommend?
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Post by boozy on Oct 14, 2017 23:36:36 GMT
An echo to all the recommendations for Zaadesh2, and Morghoul1+Naaresh look particularly interesting in DoA these days.
As a further suggestion, I would also add that Zaadesh2 in Exalted is very helpful in some of his matchups. One big problem he has is magical weapons in the time of Gremlin Swarms and other incorporeal solos. A single unit of Immortals+AG gets me a free Hakaar, with Reach weapons, always amazing on his feat. Add in a Titan brick, it can provide an infuriating puzzle for opponents. I've more than three times now done more damage to an opponent on their alpha, and gobbled up their clock with them trying to unlock the brick.
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Post by demonic on Oct 14, 2017 23:59:42 GMT
this is a newer player, using a 50 pt list (at the time) looking to further improve his beast brick, not someone with a ton of cash willing to put 300 down on an army they know nothing about x.x;
Though Xerxis2 is the beast brick's best support model, his huge base size makes him rather easy to target, so he really is a conditional model. IMO, Zaadesh2 is probably the way to go for a newer skorne player looking for a way to successfully pull off a full on beast brick. Put him in Imperial Warhost and try to get at least 2 free cards, one for an agonizer and another for a krea. Because of the slower speed, you probably won't out threat your opponent, so he'll be trying to nickel and dime your more important beasts before you get to them, making the krea essential to minimize damage. The agonizer's cry that lowers 2 str is also great for staying power. Use beast handlers on your brick every turn, whether it's removing fury, healing damage, or increasing their strength by 2. The titan brick actually has one of the most possible damage outputs in the game. Once you get a handle on how to best use the beast brick, get Xerxis2 and toss in Tiberion to really show your meta some pummeling power.
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Oct 15, 2017 0:20:07 GMT
Xerxis1 isn't bad either. He already likes a bricky playstyle and lurch helps fix the speed issue as well.
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Post by demonic on Oct 15, 2017 0:33:55 GMT
x1 uses a more infantry styled brick, though he does have the better feat.
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Post by oranjejus on Oct 15, 2017 21:44:07 GMT
I'm going to a 50pt tourney this coming weekend and single-listing it with the following IWH Titan brick:
Xekaar1
- Bronzeback
- Sentry
- Sentry
- Agonizer
Zaadesh1
- Gladiator
- Agonizer
Max Beast Handlers
Max Beast Handlers
2 agonizers mainly for the option of 4x repulse vectors, but also for wider brick options or fury games vs Hordes.
Xekaar for psycho surgery and a 3rd enrage activation to allow more healing from the units.
Gonna be fun.
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demonic
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Post by demonic on Oct 15, 2017 22:23:13 GMT
only issue I can see is delivery. Considering it's a 50pt list, it should be able to out beef most lists. You should be able to clear zones and score on scenario pretty easily if you can keep them from falling prey to range fire. Just remember, Xekaar dies by a stiff breeze x.x You have the two shield guards, but even a small pack of "pokey" models can clean him out.
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