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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2017 7:32:41 GMT
Longchops (Gator sniper solo) in CID now has "Headshot". It is basically ranged Take Down. He works for all Hordes factions and cost 5 points for a RAT 7 RNG 12 POW 14 gun with reposition 3. He also places traps like Grim 2.
This is not a huge thing, but having one ranged RFP shot means the cryx player has to be much more careful with where he places his unit leaders, and that restricts his footprint a bit. I guess the drawback is that Longchops dies to two combined shots from pirates... So, maybe in lists with Warders?
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 4, 2017 13:33:52 GMT
Longchops (Gator sniper solo) in CID now has "Headshot". It is basically ranged Take Down. He works for all Hordes factions and cost 5 points for a RAT 7 RNG 12 POW 14 gun with reposition 3. He also places traps like Grim 2. This is not a huge thing, but having one ranged RFP shot means the cryx player has to be much more careful with where he places his unit leaders, and that restricts his footprint a bit. I guess the drawback is that Longchops dies to two combined shots from pirates... So, maybe in lists with Warders? Him and the spirit cauldron look promising. Spirit cauldron more so thanks to bringing more utility for the same cost. It has puppet master and a very good boostable *edit derp* gun. I may be picking up 1 of them as soon as they come out to try in place of ellish for the increased durability. I think the trap rule should just flat cause KD on models entering or ending in the aoe. Conditional pow 10 KD is kind of unreliable as most things that get hurt by it will die anyway and the things that you want to KD will normally ignore the Pow 10. I plan on using him in a bat rep with my circle here soon to post on the cid forums. I would really like his traps and grims traps to just cause KD period. but that may be too powerful. Overall the best thing about the minion CiD is we all now benefit from it thanks to the theme force changes.  |
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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2017 13:56:20 GMT
Him and the spirit cauldron look promising. Spirit cauldron more so thanks to bringing more utility for the same cost. It has puppet master and a very good boostable RFP gun. I may be picking up 1 of them as soon as they come out to try in place of ellish for the increased durability. I think the trap rule should just flat cause KD on models entering or ending in the aoe. Conditional pow 10 KD is kind of unreliable as most things that get hurt by it will die anyway and the things that you want to KD will normally ignore the Pow 10. I plan on using him in a bat rep with my circle here soon to post on the cid forums. I would really like his traps and grims traps to just cause KD period. but that may be too powerful. Overall the best thing about the minion CiD is we all now benefit from it thanks to the theme force changes. How does the Spirit Cauldron RFP? |
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 4, 2017 15:09:00 GMT
Him and the spirit cauldron look promising. Spirit cauldron more so thanks to bringing more utility for the same cost. It has puppet master and a very good boostable RFP gun. I may be picking up 1 of them as soon as they come out to try in place of ellish for the increased durability. I think the trap rule should just flat cause KD on models entering or ending in the aoe. Conditional pow 10 KD is kind of unreliable as most things that get hurt by it will die anyway and the things that you want to KD will normally ignore the Pow 10. I plan on using him in a bat rep with my circle here soon to post on the cid forums. I would really like his traps and grims traps to just cause KD period. but that may be too powerful. Overall the best thing about the minion CiD is we all now benefit from it thanks to the theme force changes. How does the Spirit Cauldron RFP? By me being a dummy and adding rfp to spectral lash for some reason -__- derp |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Oct 4, 2017 22:11:50 GMT
I liked Longchops already. Something stuck out in my mind when I saw that new rule, and I guess this must have been it. So thanks. Now if we can just give him magic weapon. I guess there's the KSB, or Marked for Death, maybe.
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Post by nyarlathotep333 on Oct 5, 2017 6:35:06 GMT
For those of us not in the CID forums, where can we find info on Longchops and other new additions?
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ravenfire
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Post by ravenfire on Oct 5, 2017 10:20:23 GMT
Minion Gatorman Solo
LONGCHOPS 1
SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 5 7 6 7 12 16 6
FA: C
Point Cost: 5
Base Size: Medium Damage: 5
Minion - This model will work for Circle, Skorne, and Trollbloods.
LONGCHOPS 1
Advance Deployment Amphibious Pathfinder
Tough
Cover Tracks - Immediately after resolving a ranged attack during this model’s activation in which it destroyed an enemy model, this model can perform the Trapper [4 ̋] special action.
Head Shot - Models disabled by a ranged attack made by this model cannot make a Tough roll. Models boxed by a ranged attack made by this model are removed from play.
Reposition [3 ̋] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3 ̋, then its activation ends.
Trapper [4 ̋] (★Action) - Place a 4 ̋ AOE in base contact with this model. The AOE remains in place for one round. Living and undead models entering or ending their activations in the AOE suffer a POW 10 damage roll. Models damaged by Trapper become knocked down. Models with Flight XICONX are not affected.
WEAPONS [LONGCHOPS 1]
Heavy Rifle [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 12 ROF: 1 AOE: - POW: 14 Bite [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 0.5 POW: 5P+S: 12
Tactical Tip
Head Shot — Because the boxed model is removed from play before being destroyed, it does not generate a soul or corpse token.
Notes
Longchops - 2017:
10/2: RAT 7, cut Bushwhack and Marksman. Add Reposition [3”] and Head Shot. Will work for Skorne
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Post by Trollock on Oct 5, 2017 13:20:49 GMT
For those of us not in the CID forums, where can we find info on Longchops and other new additions? On the CID forums... Just register there. You might have to wait a day to be approved, but it is not like they only invite special 1337-ppl there. Any one can join as long as you behave. |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Oct 5, 2017 13:57:58 GMT
I've played him a couple times now and I think he might very well become a regular part of our "Cryx drop" lists. In particular, he's very good with casters who do board control anyway like Gunny and the Grims. I also want to try him with Calandra.
Yesterday I realized that if the Bomber activates first, Longchops can never hurt it with the trap and will keep most single-wound infantry from engaging it in melee. He was even able to vex the Stalkers because they have to walk to within 5 of their target before they jump. That would even work on Ferox if POW 10 could hurt them reliably. I think he will also be great against IFP because they don't have SW while moving and Kayazay because Acrobatics is not flight, just as Ghostly does not stop the trap.
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Post by mazog on Oct 5, 2017 15:09:06 GMT
Doesn't the RFP from head shot make the Cover Tracks rule impossible to trigger? It sure looks like it to me.
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Post by A-Mo on Oct 5, 2017 15:22:49 GMT
I've played him a couple times now and I think he might very well become a regular part of our "Cryx drop" lists. In particular, he's very good with casters who do board control anyway like Gunny and the Grims. I also want to try him with Calandra. Yesterday I realized that if the Bomber activates first, Longchops can never hurt it with the trap and will keep most single-wound infantry from engaging it in melee. He was even able to vex the Stalkers because they have to walk to within 5 of their target before they jump. That would even work on Ferox if POW 10 could hurt them reliably. I think he will also be great against IFP because they don't have SW while moving and Kayazay because Acrobatics is not flight, just as Ghostly does not stop the trap. Ferox have steady, so not to helpful there. Everything else seems fine. |
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Post by joedj on Oct 5, 2017 18:14:25 GMT
I liked Longchops already. Something stuck out in my mind when I saw that new rule, and I guess this must have been it. So thanks. Now if we can just give him magic weapon. I guess there's the KSB, or Marked for Death, maybe. SR objective of choice! 
Longchops + Borka1 Wind Wall maybe for survival of Longchops for more than one shot? Repo behind the Gobbers 5" smoke cloud?
I'm still awaiting Reinholdt to be allowed with Trollbloods.
The diversity of lists that could then reasonably compete with Denny1+Ghost Fleet would skyrocket in #.
Yeah, we got the KSB Elder, but really, ALWAYS?!
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Post by nyarlathotep333 on Oct 5, 2017 18:23:10 GMT
On the CID forums... Just register there. You might have to wait a day to be approved, but it is not like they only invite special 1337-ppl there. Any one can join as long as you behave. I am not nearly experienced enough to actually participate in CID though, I am still working at Battle Box level and getting the basics under my belt. Aren't they letting people in based on expected participation in CID? |
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Post by A-Mo on Oct 5, 2017 18:29:35 GMT
On the CID forums... Just register there. You might have to wait a day to be approved, but it is not like they only invite special 1337-ppl there. Any one can join as long as you behave. I am not nearly experienced enough to actually participate in CID though, I am still working at Battle Box level and getting the basics under my belt. Aren't they letting people in based on expected participation in CID? Nope. Experience from someone new to the game is also valuable. If interested, jump on in. |
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Post by Trollock on Oct 6, 2017 6:16:13 GMT
Doesn't the RFP from head shot make the Cover Tracks rule impossible to trigger? It sure looks like it to me. Pagani confirmed on the CID forum that this is unintentional and will change |
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