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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 13:52:02 GMT
So what do people think? Is Blind on a boostable Assault spray too good? How impactful is the animus?
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pox
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Post by pox on Sept 28, 2017 13:58:06 GMT
lost me at Fury 4.
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Post by Gilrornomma on Sept 28, 2017 14:23:20 GMT
With 4 initials though. Compare it to the Kraken (who sees play) but only has 3 focus and 2 initials. Not to mention assault. Oh and charges for free for an effective 5 fury. I think fury 5 would be far to strong with his toolkit. My game plan goes, charge target, assault shot, boost to it, reduce def, lay into target with 7 attacks at a likely pow 22 and 20. I would like the swamp horror animus to give chains strike though... That would be amazing. |
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Post by pox on Sept 28, 2017 14:43:18 GMT
My game plan goes, charge target, assault shot, boost to it, reduce def, lay into target with 7 attacks at a likely pow 22 and 20. I would like the swamp horror animus to give chains strike though... That would be amazing. Isn't the Kraken all about the Gun though it is not a melee gargantiuan and as such doesn't need as much focus to be effective. Fury 4 is the same as a Wrastler with a similar damage output for twice the points. Only charges living warrior models for free not the usual target you would want this to be eating up (warjacks and warbeasts) to get POW 22/20 you would either need to take a wrastler to support it for another 16pts or Rask - or you could just take Rask put Fury/Rage on any wrastler and use his trident gun to paralyse a model = hey presto similar effect for less than half the points. (Or Barnabas with his feat for auto-hitting and +3" movement from warpath.) I just can't think of any situation where this model at Fury 4 would be any better then 2 wrastlers with left over points. |
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Post by Gilrornomma on Sept 28, 2017 14:46:37 GMT
My game plan goes, charge target, assault shot, boost to it, reduce def, lay into target with 7 attacks at a likely pow 22 and 20. I would like the swamp horror animus to give chains strike though... That would be amazing. Isn't the Kraken all about the Gun though it is not a melee gargantiuan and as such doesn't need as much focus to be effective. Fury 4 is the same as a Wrastler with a similar damage output for twice the points. Only charges living warrior models for free not the usual target you would want this to be eating up (warjacks and warbeasts) to get POW 22/20 you would either need to take a wrastler to support it for another 16pts or Rask - or you could just take Rask put Fury/Rage on any wrastler and use his trident gun to paralyse a model = hey presto similar effect for less than half the points. (Or Barnabas with his feat for auto-hitting and +3" movement from warpath.) I just can't think of any situation where this model at Fury 4 would be any better then 2 wrastlers with left over points. Kraken is a combined arms heavy (I had it in most of my lists) it charges in kills a few things then shoots its gun. Hmm I forgot about the warrior model clause. However with rask he is charging for free anyways. But I see your point now. I guess the Dracodile also supports your army with the animus. And the spray is good. But I see your concerns now. |
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Post by pox on Sept 28, 2017 14:56:26 GMT
I just don't want a gargantuan (or any model) that is only good with X caster. The animus though interesting doesn't help a huge amount as posse can dirge for concealment and unless models hug it's huge base and things that benefit from concealment will prob be shooting whereas this will want to be up front. If you do try and hug its base to get a bonus DEF against enemy shooting then you are clumped up and easy prey for blasts and potentially are in its way if it does want to charge anything. tricky animus to balance - though it is fun and thematic. As stands Rask makes it good and his feat protects it - everyone else simply shrugs their shoulders and takes a wrastler.
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Post by flogger on Sept 28, 2017 15:53:26 GMT
Kinda nice with DEF14 on the warbeasts though, as well as concealment on the solos which is sweet.
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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 16:14:01 GMT
Interesting. Seems like he's disappointing to some as a melee beast, and overpowered to others as an assassination enabler.
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Post by crow on Sept 28, 2017 16:35:25 GMT
I just don't want a gargantuan (or any model) that is only good with X caster. The animus though interesting doesn't help a huge amount as posse can dirge for concealment and unless models hug it's huge base and things that benefit from concealment will prob be shooting whereas this will want to be up front. If you do try and hug its base to get a bonus DEF against enemy shooting then you are clumped up and easy prey for blasts and potentially are in its way if it does want to charge anything. tricky animus to balance - though it is fun and thematic. As stands Rask makes it good and his feat protects it - everyone else simply shrugs their shoulders and takes a wrastler. Calaban casts animus, now has five inch safety bubble around himself that shooting croaks (who wanna be a little back) can now hide in for concealment. Barnabas does the same, then casts swamp pit which the dravodile can sit in / also use its animus. Now most of your army is concealed, and your dracodile has a melee screen and can't be shot. Rask... well I mean the animus is meh, but dang a pow 22 and four available fury, not bad. |
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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 17:14:36 GMT
Concealment is useful, I guess. I mean, the shooting armies out there are prepared to deal with DEF much higher than 14.
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Post by ankiseth on Sept 28, 2017 19:26:46 GMT
Blind is a significant part of the Drac’s kit. You don’t really need to outright destroy a Khador heavy if you force it to shake Blind by attacking at 2” range. If you cripple a weapon, its retaliation is severely diminished. Shit, if you cripple its Cortex after Blinding it, you can probably start buying attacks against other targets. Concealment is useful, I guess. I mean, the shooting armies out there are prepared to deal with DEF much higher than 14. Khador Rockets aren’t prepared for DEF higher than 14. |
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Post by tesoe on Sept 28, 2017 19:30:59 GMT
Stats for those not in CID?
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Post by joedj on Sept 28, 2017 19:34:00 GMT
I'm pondering the Amphibious-Prowl angle. Which models can use that animus bubble... Thrullg!  |
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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 19:37:05 GMT
I'm pondering the Amphibious-Prowl angle. Which models can use that animus bubble... Thrullg! Mist Speaker, Croak Trappers, and Thrullg in Blindwater. |
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Post by skormedlover87 on Sept 28, 2017 20:44:34 GMT
Shouldn't his animus overcome other terrain for the purposes of pseudo pathfinder that blindwater has?
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