gdnerd
Junior Strategist
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Post by gdnerd on Sept 18, 2017 19:59:58 GMT
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Post by Aegis on Sept 18, 2017 20:14:34 GMT
Nice. Curious about how Cygnar internal balance will shift with all those changes.
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 18, 2017 20:24:24 GMT
Kraye looks bananas. He launches warjacks like cannonballs haha
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Sept 18, 2017 20:50:08 GMT
Why must PP torture me? They released the updated rules for Commandos and Kraye, but not the final Gravediggers theme.
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Post by mydnight on Sept 18, 2017 22:39:21 GMT
So stormlances get +1 pwr, but laddermore does not?
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Post by darkangeldentist on Sept 18, 2017 22:47:32 GMT
So stormlances get +1 pwr, but laddermore does not? It looks that way. It's not much of an issue to me since both the weapon's name (for both ranged and melee) are different. To look at it a different way, Storm lances lost electro-leap on their guns but she keeps lightning generator on hers?
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Post by pvtjoker on Sept 18, 2017 23:21:37 GMT
Her keeping Lightning Generator instead of gaining POW seems good. Maybe thin infantry screens for the Lances charge.
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Post by mydnight on Sept 19, 2017 0:38:10 GMT
You do realise that the update hasn't gone through for laddermore (on warroom at least) and she lost her +2/+2 ability for stormlance shooting and now grants veteran leader to storm knights? Which means there's very little reason to bring her now. 8 points for electro-leap when I can do it with the firefly .... I guess stormblades would like the shooting accuracy buff...but they already have auto hitting guns....
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Post by Aegis on Sept 19, 2017 0:56:17 GMT
You do realise that the update hasn't gone through for laddermore (on warroom at least) and she lost her +2/+2 ability for stormlance shooting and now grants veteran leader to storm knights? Which means there's very little reason to bring her now. 8 points for electro-leap when I can do it with the firefly .... I guess stormblades would like the shooting accuracy buff...but they already have auto hitting guns.... I think Stormblades lists are the only place where she could be interesting. Sure, Stormblades shots auto-hit IF one of the gunners connect, and there the RAT bonus helps. Also, against some high DEF targets the +1 atk in melee could also come handy. Like you said, her personal contribution is pretty much similar to the one of a Firefly, with the difference that firefly provides his buff, is more durable and can boost. Laddermoore on her side has speed and a better charge turn. In general, I agree that Firefly usually is better, but if you are making a Stormblade list, I can see switching a Firefly for her to get the ATK buff.
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Post by gobber on Sept 19, 2017 1:01:13 GMT
You do realise that the update hasn't gone through for laddermore (on warroom at least) and she lost her +2/+2 ability for stormlance shooting and now grants veteran leader to storm knights? Which means there's very little reason to bring her now. 8 points for electro-leap when I can do it with the firefly .... I guess stormblades would like the shooting accuracy buff...but they already have auto hitting guns.... She's updated in my warroom... If you're seeing vet leader that's correct.
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Post by pvtjoker on Sept 19, 2017 1:43:37 GMT
You do realise that the update hasn't gone through for laddermore (on warroom at least) and she lost her +2/+2 ability for stormlance shooting and now grants veteran leader to storm knights? Which means there's very little reason to bring her now. 8 points for electro-leap when I can do it with the firefly .... I guess stormblades would like the shooting accuracy buff...but they already have auto hitting guns.... I did realize she lost the +2/+2. We've known about it for a while now, and your first post only references being surprised about her not gaining POW. I am just remembering why I hadn't registered with this site sooner. P.S. Is anyone else seeing Black 13th available in Heavy Metal? Maybe we've known that for a while too and I missed that update.
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Post by mydnight on Sept 19, 2017 1:56:10 GMT
Sorry let me clarify: arguments that she kept electro leap as a reasonable compensation for not gaining +1 pwr on her lance are weak , since she is already nerfed by the switch to vet leader. Hence why I was surprised that they didn't bother buffing her power up. Sure 1 power isn't much, but it still feels a bit 'lazy' on PP's part.
As for B13, I thought someone previously mentioned that they may even add longgunners to heavy metal. Guess we won;'t really know whether it's an error or for real until the soon to come theme force update.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Sept 19, 2017 2:27:09 GMT
B13 in hm is probably a bug (I see it too). They aren't in the theme list rules, so ignore them for now.
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skormedlover87
Junior Strategist
Desperately searching for days off to game...
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Post by skormedlover87 on Sept 19, 2017 3:13:20 GMT
Does Maddox gain enough from having Laddermore around? She's only got the one offensive spell, but a good buff to her personal combat ability.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 19, 2017 3:21:55 GMT
Sorry let me clarify: arguments that she kept electro leap as a reasonable compensation for not gaining +1 pwr on her lance are weak , since she is already nerfed by the switch to vet leader. Hence why I was surprised that they didn't bother buffing her power up. Sure 1 power isn't much, but it still feels a bit 'lazy' on PP's part. As for B13, I thought someone previously mentioned that they may even add longgunners to heavy metal. Guess we won;'t really know whether it's an error or for real until the soon to come theme force update. Don't forget to ask for the Grenadier's compensation as well...
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