Pair Plan for 2017 (Any suggestions?)

The only thing I could add as comment is that I find the lack of Dhunian Knot from your Grissel 2 list quite suprising.

It is absolute value in every game I play with her.

I would really love to get the Knot in to that Grissel list, but i can simply not figure out a way to do it without getting a worse list.

The axer does not make or break the list, no but it has a few key features. For one, it allows a Bomber to threaten 19" (same as Grissel). If you inform the opponent of this, they will often play like you always threaten 19", and that buys you 2" of extra space. It also helps when going for assassination.

It also allows your MK to threaten 12", which is slightly further than most things. At POW 20, it still kills most things it gets to, but again, it gives you more space. Many heavy guns have a 12" range, so with no axer, they can stand 11.9" away and shoot you and not be charged in return. This way, if they shoot you, you will come murder them in melee. The list does a lot of work at range, but the serious hurt is put out when you rage the beasts and charge in. Ideally you can shoot a round, then charge in and scrum with your feat up. Then melee anything left standing and THEN you go back to shooting. The axer allows you to get serious work out of the MK earlier.

The DK is relevant on every turn though. It makes your things just a little bit better all the time. The Axer is a bit harder to quantify since it is more about board position.

At the moment I didn't buy back any light war beasts so will be trying the double bomber version for a while. While not perfect you will have two shaman sprays, grissel, and the mountain kings spray for those blast immune models. I also think on paper the threat range helps in matches like Haley 2, It seems like it would make her stay further away so she has less control over you. Lastly, until this point in mk3 my main faction has been legion so I like that assasination threat with this current variation.

On a side note II did just read someone's article on the swamp troll and storm troll so I am curious about the other style of list but plan on testing these two lists into everything first.

Granted that you can down an ARM 20 heavy in a single turn with your setup, but the double bomber variant lets you tell Discordia to go away even under deceleration. I like that your list has a bit more flexibility though. Mine was developed to counter pre-nerf mad dog spam, so i focued on being able to kill as many heavies as possible. The Swamp and Storm trolls do nothing in that particular match up, but they will likely be very useful in some other match ups i guess

That i one point, i dont know how to handle. We have Cryx, Circle players, and many other though which are Blast immune. I dont even know, if i should even take one bomber. But i really like he model. This is one point atm, where i stuck with list building.