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Post by themusicalcake on Mar 14, 2017 4:02:22 GMT
Why does Horgle have two models that look almost exactly the same? Like the only difference between them is that his weapons are on fire on his warlock model and he's got a different pose, I could honest to god greenstuff my old Horgle into a warlock.
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Post by Zagdag on Mar 14, 2017 4:21:10 GMT
I could be remembering this wrong, but I beleive there are con exclusive versions of the minor warlocks that were essentially arm variants.
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Post by Trollock on Mar 14, 2017 11:22:08 GMT
It is like that with most of the journeyman warlocks/warcasters. Horgle 1 and 2 are the same person, just that Horgle 2 is later in his life. He has gotten a bit more armor and he sword is on frigging fire now, but he is still the same person underneath  |
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Post by themusicalcake on Mar 14, 2017 17:19:28 GMT
Horgle 1 and 2 are the same person, just that Horgle 2 is later in his life so can I use Horgle(Jr) as a Horgle(lock) model, or do I need both? my was-PG says that they have to be what they are SUPPOSED to be because of model confusion, but there's so little difference between the models that if someone rarely plays against Trolls they would have trouble with it regardless |
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Post by robbleyourworld on Mar 14, 2017 19:06:25 GMT
Its kind of like the butcher example from the Steamroller rules
" A player re-poses his Kommander Orsus Zoktavir model,
intending to play it as Orsus Zoktavir, the Butcher of
Khardov. This is an illegal conversion because it breaks the
golden rule of conversions—it will be difficult for EOs and
players to know which character the model is intended to
represent without help from the player who converted it."
-steamroller rules 2016 pg 3
essentially the models are so similar that the only "clear" way to discriminate them is to use the proper pose for the model
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Post by douglas on Aug 1, 2017 8:21:44 GMT
As a knifemaker that red hot sword is worthless, metal is all soft. If he went to hit something it would just bend. LOL just saying.
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Post by Trollock on Aug 1, 2017 9:46:10 GMT
As a knifemaker that red hot sword is worthless, metal is all soft. If he went to hit something it would just bend. LOL just saying. Unless it was a frigging magical sword! |
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Post by Arcaux on Aug 1, 2017 10:01:30 GMT
They struggle when making 2nd or 3rd versions of characters to differentiate unless they have a huge difference like riding a horse/battle engine etc.
Look at Vlad1 and Vlad2.
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Post by Trollock on Aug 1, 2017 11:36:15 GMT
They struggle when making 2nd or 3rd versions of characters to differentiate unless they have a huge difference like riding a horse/battle engine etc. Look at Vlad1 and Vlad2. That one is easy. Vlad 1 is one of the ugliest models around while Vlad 2 is a boss 8) |
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Post by Hotwater on Aug 1, 2017 16:30:52 GMT
Horgle 1 and 2 are the same person, just that Horgle 2 is later in his life so can I use Horgle(Jr) as a Horgle(lock) model, or do I need both? my was-PG says that they have to be what they are SUPPOSED to be because of model confusion, but there's so little difference between the models that if someone rarely plays against Trolls they would have trouble with it regardless You'd need the Horgle2 model if you want to play him in a tournament, a converted horgle1 would be illegal because it's less that 50% of the original model. Otherwise in casual play, I don't see a problem with using Horgle1 as a proxy for Horgle2 as long as you've discussed that with your opponent before hand. |
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