What is your wish for the Man of War Theme

I reckon its going to be really original like

1) For every 20 points of MoW models/units and one Command Attachment or Medium based solo free of cost.
2) MoW bombardiers gain Advance Move
3) +1 to your starting role

It's less a hope for the theme itself, but my biggest MOW related wish right now is that one of the Large Based MOW gain an ability like creeping barrage or covering fire. Could go a long way to keeping weapon master infantry (who are more likely to get the alpha usually) off the other MOW.

As for the theme itself, the redeploy ability from Steam and Steel back in MK II might be nice to have.

My guess:
No Greylord casters, Karchev is allowed.

1)For every 20 pts of MoW/AK models/units 1 free S/M based solo or command
2)For each Kovnik a unit gets advanced movement
3)1 unit of Assault Kommandos gets ambush

I think the theme will be in line with a sort of siege theme. So the AKs will be used with the MoWs to clear the field (also I don't see them making an AK theme on its own).

I think a lot of things that people are wanting to see on the units will be coming out on CAs for those units. Don't forget that originally the themes were going to introduce new models/units that were part of the theme. The Sorscha 3 preview kind of hinted at a Demo Crew CA with some sort of vengence ability.

Well, Cygnar can give it to their SPD 4 Centurion chassis warjacks, so why not? I don't think that it would be too broken either. It doesn't give the enough distance to avoid enemy counterattack without the jammers after it charges, whatever the distance is 3" or 5". And consider Man-o-Wars are on the medium bases, 5" would be better functional with them.




Steam Pressure is not so bad, I think, but they still have toooo short range. Even if 14 is too high, they needs at least RNG 12. For now they are even outranged by typical shooters with a military rifle! Assault would be an another answer, but if you put them behind of the Shocktroopers still RNG 10 is a drawback on them.



But you are also use some jacks as well, and 'Jack Marshal on Kovnik would be an issue too. If it is too extreme, then it can be managed by restrict it to only warjacks start the game marshaled, as Flank[faction warrior] on the Irregulars.




Yeah. A chainsaw needs to be powerful. Shocktrooper is the line melee troopers so Bombardiers are not need to have so melee punching power than them, but consider their RNG 1 melee weapon Bombardiers are need to enjoy that. And after all, they are the so called 'heavy infantry' so why not to give them the melee capability that hurts the jack even if their main advantage is their ranged weapon?

I would like Advance Move on every MoW, or reposition 3 on every MoW, or something. The reason I think MoW suck in the present day is SR2017. It punishes them incredibly hard, and you are pretty much always fighting to not lose on scenario when you play them. Personally I don't like slow things (don't like Karchev for similar reasons, he's too slow up the table) but MoW are the worst for it and a canny opponent can just bully you on scenario all game.

Vengeance on Demo Core is Worthless. They are too fragile. I also go with "Hit Harder".

At the moment Assaulting MOW Shockers are better then they are.

I think one of the big things we need to look at is what is Man-O-Wars place in battle?  Khador believes in the hammer and anvil approach to war.  Are MoWs the hammer or the anvil?  If the are the hammer then they need to be mobile and be the crushing blow that splinters and army and allow forces to press on.  If they are the anvil then they are the immovable force that an attacking force crashes against and can weather the damage.  I almost see Privateer seeing them as the Anvil rather than a Hammer.  What we would like to see is MoW as the hammer and that is where we are butting heads.  With scenario play being the big thing now, Anvil is not really going to cut it (as we have all found out).  

Privateer is really going to have to sit down and give MoW a BIG CID project if they are going to get MoW playable in the current Meta Environment.  I really think, as others have pointed out, that MoW need a speed buff and that MoW get the "trencher luvin" treatment and make them almost like a sub faction.  This is where a cohesive force needs to be designed.  If MoW are an Anvil styled force it should move in layers and fight in layers.  Shocks then Demo then Bombardiers.  I would love a Drakun force (ala Uhlans), but that is getting greedy.  We know that we are getting the battle wagon(MoW Battle engine) and large based MoW, but since we don't know what they do I could not guess where they fight in the layered approach.

Once we see these new units it may rewrite the traditional force we see with MoW now.   New UAs may expand current units and the MoW Shocktrooper we see today may no longer be the frontline bastion he is today and may be regulated to line trooper with the new units?


Just my 2cp, 
- Da Muppet