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Post by Trollock on Jul 20, 2017 19:17:46 GMT
Just for teh record too, the GK does no longer need whelps. The Gobber chef can be taken in themes, and stone scribes are tasty
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 20, 2017 20:32:16 GMT
I play Legion and was wondering in regards to the change for the push effect, did the GK lose thunderbolt or did the rule itself change?
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Post by A-Mo on Jul 20, 2017 20:50:24 GMT
I play Legion and was wondering in regards to the change for the push effect, did the GK lose thunderbolt or did the rule itself change? It lost "thunderbolt" and gained "storm chiller". Differences is that the push is optional and the crit is stationary instead of knockdown. Thunderbolt is un changed currently.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jul 21, 2017 1:07:58 GMT
The thing here is that this thing shoots as a bomber and a half AND it fights better than a MK in melee (stationary on fists). You get great fire power AND great melee power. I played Bomber, Mauler, GK with Grissel 2, but i didnt like it in practice as much as i did on paper. If the GK is now POW 16 shooting and does not "always" push his target outside shooting range AND can crit stationary, this battle group sounds very sweet with many casters. I kinda like GK, Ice Troll, and maybe a Bouncer as Kolgrimma's whole BG. They do a great job of generating just the right amount of fury and staying out of trouble. The clouds can't protect the king but Arcane Vortex and the Bouncer can. Then, she can use its base to extend her cloud wall in a roundabout way. Maybe some Raiders can run interference well enough to keep the king out of melee, at least until feat time? And of course, the Northkin Elder synergizes with everything, and not just the damage on the guns. I was playing her in Kriel Company but I might try this next if only to see how the snow drifts work to help slow down the enemy advance or give her concealment. That and I just have no luck with Sluggers for some reason. | Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID)
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(Kolgrima 1) Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch [+28] |
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[/b] [*]Ice Troll [9][*]Troll Bouncer [9][*]Trollkin Runebearer [4][/ul]Fell Caller Hero [5]Northkin Shaman [4]Northkin Shaman [4]Valka Curseborn, Chieftain of the North [0(6)]Farrow Bone Grinders ( min) [5]Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes ( max) [9][/b] [/ul]Northkin Raiders (max) [15][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 21, 2017 3:19:06 GMT
And there's also the fact you can do something crazy and take BOTH.
Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID)
!!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme.
(Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Ice Troll [9] - Mountain King [36] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [4]
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Post by josephkerr on Jul 21, 2017 4:11:11 GMT
And there's also the fact you can do something crazy and take BOTH. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID) !!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Ice Troll [9] - Mountain King [36] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [4] I love this list! Maybe Bouncer over second Ice Troll?
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Post by Trollock on Jul 21, 2017 12:44:43 GMT
And there's also the fact you can do something crazy and take BOTH. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID) !!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Ice Troll [9] - Mountain King [36] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [4] *cough* PoD... *cough*
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jul 21, 2017 13:26:48 GMT
I might have to try this. conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0G02esfmfJfJ6R0ki-j3j3Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID) !!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dozer & Smigg [18] - Glacier King [35] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [4] Hearthgut Hooch Hauler [18] Hearthgut Hooch Hauler [18]
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Post by The Huntsman on Jul 21, 2017 16:48:12 GMT
Needing the new elder to shine is another fact to consider. The new elder is cool but you have to include him and cause u need the +2 damage really hurt the flexibility of the elder. Don't get me wrong but like u already mentioned it is a big package to help the gk. If you play him u still need an mauler for rage. You don't strictly need the +2 damage. POW 14 may not rough up a heavy but it will still kill most casters. Either elder works well with it because you can get the SPD/damage buff or strip stealth. Would I play GK over MK in a KC list? With Grim 2, probably. Just for teh record too, the GK does no longer need whelps. The Gobber chef can be taken in themes, and stone scribes are tasty Those are some pricy hors d'oeuvres. Honestly I'm never sorry about having whelps in my list these days because of how strong they are on scenario.
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Post by zwergenkrieger on Jul 21, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
And there's also the fact you can do something crazy and take BOTH. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID) !!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Ice Troll [9] - Mountain King [36] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [4] I just wonder what are you going to do against jamming units?
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Post by Trollock on Jul 21, 2017 19:19:40 GMT
Those are some pricy hors d'oeuvres. Honestly I'm never sorry about having whelps in my list these days because of how strong they are on scenario. Oh i am a huge proponent for whelps in general too, but some times the points simply do not work out, and a Chef and a diminished stone late game could be a fine option.
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