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Post by tesoe on Jul 13, 2017 23:44:38 GMT
I'm glad my being wrong about her ruling gave you a way to stroke your ego after the fact. I hope you feel more reassured with yourself after taking a paragraph to do so.
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wags
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Post by wags on Jul 13, 2017 23:56:40 GMT
I'm not sure the grolar is really the jack you want with her. If they are actually in range of the grolar's gun, they are almost in range of a charge. I think for myself personally I'd rather have some juggernauts than a Grolar. Gonna give her a run tonight in Jaw's and see how it goes. On paper it looks like she plays into so much stuff and I love the focus efficiency she seems to have. I am le excited!
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Post by tesoe on Jul 14, 2017 0:11:56 GMT
I really think she'll make Jaw shine no matter which way you take the design. I'm definitely looking forward to it.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 14, 2017 0:21:58 GMT
I think she might be one of the only casters to actually want a full unit of kosdites.
They can actually do work with her a, and she wants a cheap gumming unit b.
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Post by tesoe on Jul 14, 2017 0:30:57 GMT
Being able to apply debuffs instead of direct buffs is a huge boost to Kossites as an ambushing unit also.
I was really on the fence about OW2 with how OW1 is, but I think I'm going to need to add her to my collection.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 14, 2017 0:34:16 GMT
Oh crap I just realized.
Shes our first powerHOUSE caster!
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Jul 14, 2017 0:51:55 GMT
I'm glad my being wrong about her ruling gave you a way to stroke your ego after the fact. I hope you feel more reassured with yourself after taking a paragraph to do so. No, that's not it at all. Rather, it was my frustration that you disrespectfully disregarded and perhaps even disparaged the input of an experienced and *well informed* player (Rowdy), who spent hours upon hours over many weeks (on behalf of the community) participating in the CID. And then after it was verified that he was right, you didn't even apologize to him.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 14, 2017 0:57:41 GMT
Whilst I did feel exsasperated, especially at the "getting used to change is hard" part, im not really offended.
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Post by tesoe on Jul 14, 2017 1:29:35 GMT
Appologize for disagreeing with over rules? Yeah that's as likely as Rowdy apologizing for his agressive and demeening debate style. I didn't take it personally and got the impression Rowdy was mature enough not to take being argued with by a stranger on the internet personally either. Sorry not paying reverent devotion to your personal crush.
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 14, 2017 2:24:43 GMT
Enough. It's over.
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Post by tapecrawler on Jul 14, 2017 2:52:54 GMT
This might be a silly question but how well would she run a couple of units of Doomies? It seems like she should be able to deliver them without too many casualties and that seems to have been the major stumbling block for them not getting played (aside from their 13 point cost).
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Post by auraco on Jul 14, 2017 3:06:53 GMT
I don't see her being a pure jack caster, yes she can fully fuel 7 jacks, but if she does that they won't be affected by boundless charge and will still be at the pathetic 8'' threat range typical to khador jack. That being said I think she could be a terrific Jaws caster but in a more combine arm way, including kayazy and kossites seems like a good idea.
She can run a WGK list but just going for a rocketspam list just seems like a poor man's Vlad1 version of the list, she will need to go with a different version. I really like curse of shadow and how it interract with out battle engine, I might be wrong but if you have a landing spot I think curse of shadow allows you to go through models even if you miss with your impact hit. Curse of shadow also brings it's gun up to pow 18 against something with pow 10 blast damage.
I will clearly have to try her in different theme forces. If the change to mercenary sticks she's also going to like being able to take Sylys for the free upkeep, extra spell range and arcane secret. Reinholdt might also be a good idea with reload, not sure which is best. He gun can also work on some of the battle engines and since they've been buffed by the last round of CID I think it's a pretty big deal to be able to blind wraith engines and siege animantarax among other things.
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Post by auraco on Jul 14, 2017 3:09:05 GMT
This might be a silly question but how well would she run a couple of units of Doomies? It seems like she should be able to deliver them without too many casualties and that seems to have been the major stumbling block for them not getting played (aside from their 13 point cost). In theory she is perfect for them, she protects them, help them hit more accurately and harder with her gun and curse of shadow, I'm not sure if it's worth it to run out of theme for them since they already seem overcosted. Maybe once we get a greylord/doom reavers theme force, but I won't be trying running them before that happens.
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Post by tapecrawler on Jul 14, 2017 3:14:17 GMT
That was the feeling I had as well. They're just too darn expensive right now. It would be nice if the theme was like the Mad Dog theme where the units themselves get the discount instead of solos I probably wouldn't take otherwise.
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Post by sand20go on Jul 14, 2017 4:16:46 GMT
OK. What _I_ like about her is her 24 inch assination threat range. It really is RIDICULOUS and argues, I think, for WG theme because rockets are life.
The Run goes like this
Witch activates Feats (all the machinary turns on) Witch casts BC on her self for 1 focus Charges 11 (if within 12 we add a Carrion Crow Shot). Which we can reroll. If we hit with that we will reverse order of Scourge/Curse. Scourge Next. Likely boosted so now we have used 4 focus We boost damage (5 focus) We then apply Curse of Shadows.
We now have a knocked down, ARM -2 caster who also could be blind. Apply shots to face and GG.
The threat is live every turn. Now you gotta get the math right cause you will be in a position to die horribly if you don't but many casters will be in a world of hurt.
Of course GETTING to a caster will be hard. But screens will be at a previous and absent them - sad opponent.
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