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Post by waraldir on Jul 13, 2017 11:56:27 GMT
I posted this in the facebook group. I thought over Doomy 2 and made this list.  What do you think? I think it could work. The enemy cant really hold back, because of the Bears, but cant even go to far, because of D" thread with Northkin UA. Could be a really good combi i think. |
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 13, 2017 12:24:26 GMT
Couple of thoughts:
1) I generally dislike any list without ranged attacks. A savvy opponent will punish you.
2) The choice of Northkin Elder seems weird. It will make the bears move faster and hit harder and increases the pow off Rok's spray, but for that you're giving up +1 strength for all of your list.
3) Your benefits are still up in the air, but at the moment we reckon it's +1 to go first and free upkeeps throughout the game. They are ok, but Doomy only has one upkeep> It feels a bit underwhelming.
4) Due to the great speed of beasts with Doomy2 you probably want a Max stone
5) I definitely think you want whelps, no caster in the game needs them as much!
Maybe something like:
Doomy2 (SotN) - Rok - Mauler - Earthborn - ice Troll - Axer Max Krielstone + NE Battle Bears Battle Bears Whelps Janissa
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 13, 2017 13:07:37 GMT
The upkeep is only free on Northkin models as well. With Doomy 2 I'd really like to see a shaman and swamp golbler crew added for clouds.
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Post by Trollock on Jul 13, 2017 13:53:32 GMT
Doomy with 3 heavies seems way worse than Doomy with 5 heavies. Pagani said that non-northkin options will be allowed as fee solos (possibly not whelps, but Fell callers and runebearers and such), so the normal elder is an option that i would go for with doomy for sure.
Also, Janissa is not in SotN right?
I really want this to work though, because Rök is just broken bananas with doomy 2.
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Post by Trollock on Jul 13, 2017 14:13:29 GMT
Here is a straight comparison between a PoD version and a SotN version: | Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Storm of the North (CID)
(Doomshaper 2) Hoarluk Doomshaper, Rage of Dhunia [+27] |
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[/b] [*]Dire Troll Mauler [15][*]Earthborn Dire Troll (CID) [14][/font] [*]Rok (CID) [19][*]Troll Axer [10][/ul] Troll Whelps [4]Valka Curseborn, Chieftain of the North (CID) [0(6)]Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes ( max) [9][/b][/font] [/ul]Northkin Bear Handle & Battle Bears (CID) [9][/td][td]Trollbloods Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia(Doomshaper 2) Hoarluk Doomshaper, Rage of Dhunia [+27][/b] [*]Dire Troll Mauler [15][*]Dire Troll Mauler [15]
[*]Earthborn Dire Troll (CID) [14]
[*]Mulg the Ancient [19]
[*]Troll Axer [10][/ul]Northkin Shaman [0(4)]Northkin Shaman [0(4)]Troll Whelps [0(4)]Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes ( min) [6][/b][/font] [/ul][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table] It basically comes down to: Rök + Bears + Valka (and a maxed stone) vs Bomber + Mauler + two free PoD-solos I am thinking that Rök punches significantly harder than a Mauler. Bears + Valka punches roughly as hard as a Bomber (they should be able to more or less down a heavy in melee, but they require no help from the caster unlike the bomber. The Bomber is super nice to have, since that allows for softening up of a target before you send in an EBDT who may not one round a heavy on its own. It also makes it easier to spot remove certain models. Rök is bat shit crazy if there are infantry around though. I think it is worth trying out for sure. I think one should probably Ambush with the bears to force the enemy to stay tight in the middle. Rök will LOVE that. He can kill a heavy and a half or even two if he can reach them. |
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Post by waraldir on Jul 13, 2017 16:26:11 GMT
I Made a mistake on the Elder i Notice. Was in thought about borka.
Well then a normal One.
What would be the Stronger Choice? Pod or Sotn?
And what plays better atm.. PoD or without Theme?
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Post by Trollock on Jul 13, 2017 17:46:35 GMT
PoD is the "only" way to play trolls before Kriel Company and SotN are released. BoH is only strong in certain match ups, but playing without a theme is a needless handicap imo. Only time will tell if PoD or SotN is the stronger choice dor Doomy 2 though. We can only speculate (and try it out ofc!)
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