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Post by Blargaliscious on Jun 29, 2017 20:11:10 GMT
As I've mentioned before, I'm with the others that say that some sort of FA cap on the number of any one particular warjack design would be a good thing. It doesn't have to be a flat 3, or 5, or whatever, nor does it need to be the same across the board or across all of the factions, just *something* reasonable. I personally would put my initial swag at 5.
There are a lot of arguments that can be made as to why there should be some sort of FA on warjacks, but they don't matter except for one:
If someone is taking *A LOT* (10+?) of the same cheap warjack / warbeast in some oddball army setup, they are not playing the game by the rules to win, they are playing the rules outside of the intent of the game to win. I don't think this is something that we want for the health of the tournaments, the game, or the community.
But, I could be wrong...
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 29, 2017 20:27:24 GMT
Don't ruin my 25 Shredder Abby 2 and 12 units of Blight wasps under Thagrosh 2 with your FA nonsense.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
This literally cannot be said with any level of certainty or evidence. Never has PP announced that Warjack spam is not a legal way to play the game. If that were the case FA restrictions would already be instated on Warjacks.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jun 29, 2017 21:13:16 GMT
Pp has been known to be stubborn to a excessive levels. They have stucl to dumb decisions just do they wouldn't show weakness. They will not change something that desperately needs changing until somebody goes over and hits then on the back of the head with a bat.
Also remember that warbeast list for una2 they built to donate to an event. It had 4 shadow fells,4 other griffin and a storm raptor. To me that kind of shows how they think about spamming things. They just don't think of spamming 1 thing for your entire list.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jun 29, 2017 21:31:36 GMT
Also remember that warbeast list for una2 they built to donate to an event. It had 4 shadow fells,4 other griffin and a storm raptor. To me that kind of shows how they think about spamming things. They just don't think of spamming 1 thing for your entire list. I agree, but people want stuff banned they just don't feel like dealing with as well. For instance Khador actually has the least amount of "Single Warjack Spam" at the moment but people want all Khadoran Heavies to be banned or whatever.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jun 29, 2017 21:34:28 GMT
Also remember that warbeast list for una2 they built to donate to an event. It had 4 shadow fells,4 other griffin and a storm raptor. To me that kind of shows how they think about spamming things. They just don't think of spamming 1 thing for your entire list. I agree, but people want stuff banned they just don't feel like dealing with as well. For instance Khador actually has the least amount of "Single Warjack Spam" at the moment but people want all Khadoran Heavies to be banned or whatever. Your right. ... next steamroller I'm running is gonna be the ban khador tournament. If khador wins we burn the winner on a menofix and eat some marshmallows
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 29, 2017 21:35:19 GMT
I agree, but people want stuff banned they just don't feel like dealing with as well. For instance Khador actually has the least amount of "Single Warjack Spam" at the moment but people want all Khadoran Heavies to be banned or whatever. Your right. ... next steamroller I'm running is gonna be the ban khador tournament. If khador wins we burn the winner on a menofix and eat some marshmallows What... what if they don't win?
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Jun 29, 2017 21:38:11 GMT
Also remember that warbeast list for una2 they built to donate to an event. It had 4 shadow fells,4 other griffin and a storm raptor. To me that kind of shows how they think about spamming things. They just don't think of spamming 1 thing for your entire list. I agree, but people want stuff banned they just don't feel like dealing with as well. For instance Khador actually has the least amount of "Single Warjack Spam" at the moment but people want all Khadoran Heavies to be banned or whatever. Khador bring more than one heavy, but most of their heavies are often marauders.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jun 29, 2017 21:40:31 GMT
Your right. ... next steamroller I'm running is gonna be the ban khador tournament. If khador wins we burn the winner on a menofix and eat some marshmallows What... what if they don't win? Obviously then khador is not the problem everyone thought it was and all the rest of us learn about a valuable lesson about not Female Doging about faction balance.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jun 29, 2017 21:42:14 GMT
Your right. ... next steamroller I'm running is gonna be the ban khador tournament. If khador wins we burn the winner on a menofix and eat some marshmallows Or just want changes or debuffs to very precise things in faction because they feel bitter. I will say. I would accept the Kodiak going to 14 points. Its currently a A+ jack and if it makes people that mad then I would settle for a B+ jack. Juggernaught I say suck an egg to the people that want it to be more points then it is. The maurader I can see borderline, I could raise by 2 points and give grand slam and follow up making it a much better slambot but also make it compete heavily with the Jugger and reducing spam (Or just grand slam and increase by 1 point).
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 29, 2017 21:43:32 GMT
What... what if they don't win? Obviously then khador is not the problem everyone thought it was and all the rest of us learn about a valuable lesson about not Female Doging about faction balance. *Whispers* can we burn them anyway?
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Post by W0lfBane on Jun 29, 2017 21:45:20 GMT
Obviously then khador is not the problem everyone thought it was and all the rest of us learn about a valuable lesson about not Female Doging about faction balance. *Whispers* can we burn them anyway? No The canon of the true law specifically forbids it. That exact specific scenario. On page 11,542
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 29, 2017 21:47:40 GMT
*Whispers* can we burn them anyway? No The canon of the true law specifically forbids it. You Menites are boring. I'm gonna talk to the Trolls. They'd be down for some torching some Khadorans.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jun 29, 2017 21:48:29 GMT
No The canon of the true law specifically forbids it. You Menites are boring. I'm gonna talk to the Trolls. They'd be down for some torching some Khadorans. You misspelled "eating"
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Post by Blargaliscious on Jun 29, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
Don't ruin my 25 Shredder Abby 2 and 12 units of Blight wasps under Thagrosh 2 with your FA nonsense. It's not a bug, it's a feature. This literally cannot be said with any level of certainty or evidence. Never has PP announced that Warjack spam is not a legal way to play the game. If that were the case FA restrictions would already be instated on Warjacks. Please re-read my quote and think about it in relation to what you replied with. Nobody said that jackspam or beastspam is "not a legal way to play the game." The fact that jackspam or beastspam is a legal way to play the game is, in some instances, a problem. This interesting "feature" lead to the Karchev 14x Mad Dog spam army that got a way-too-hard nerf. One of the fun ones from Mk2 that flew under the radar (and apparently still is) is the Nemo2 11x Charger army - you get a free journeyman and free Squire with the Heavy Metal theme army. I'm not sure if your Shredder-spam or Wasp-spam is all that much of a problem since they don't have the resilience of the Mad Dog or the Charger. That's part of the reason why I'm not in favor of an across-the-board FA for all warjacks and all warbeasts.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 29, 2017 21:53:14 GMT
You Menites are boring. I'm gonna talk to the Trolls. They'd be down for some torching some Khadorans. You misspelled "eating" Horgle's beasts like their food cooked.
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