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Post by allinontrolls on May 21, 2017 12:47:29 GMT
Hi,
This is a list I will test the next tournament.
Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
!!! Your army contains a CID entry.
(Grissel 1) Grissel Bloodsong, Fell Caller [+29]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [15]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [15]
- Slag Troll [10]
- Slag Troll [10]
- Troll Axer [10]
Trollkin Skinner [4]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Trollkin War Wagon (CID) [16]
It's my second list to deal with everything gunny can't handle.(coc)
The idea would be to boundless charge a war wagon with hoof it to threaten 12,5" and then back up 10".
Welcome to any ideas.
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Post by macdaddy on May 21, 2017 13:39:37 GMT
Hi, This is a list I will test the next tournament. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points !!! Your army contains a CID entry. (Grissel 1) Grissel Bloodsong, Fell Caller [+29] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Earthborn Dire Troll [15] - Earthborn Dire Troll [15] - Slag Troll [10] - Slag Troll [10] - Troll Axer [10] Trollkin Skinner [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin War Wagon (CID) [16] It's my second list to deal with everything gunny can't handle.(coc) The idea would be to boundless charge a war wagon with hoof it to threaten 12,5" and then back up 10". Welcome to any ideas. If you are not playing in theme I can't recommend mulg with Grissel 1 enough. She really helps him a lot and he'd be a good replacement for the Earthborn if you can manage it. But there's appeal to both. Overall I like the list  |
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Post by Trollock on May 21, 2017 14:42:47 GMT
That skinner HAS to be a Runebearer tbh. I built a list with her (in theme) that i will probably try out tomorrow. conflictchamber.com/#b71b_-0D580r0rbLeC0k0mezezc86e6eeAcChUTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Kriel Company (CID) !!! Your army contains a CID entry. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Grissel 1) Grissel Bloodsong, Fell Caller [+29] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Trollkin Runebearer [4] Braylen Wanderheart, Trollkin Outlaw [0(5)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Sons of Bragg [11] Thumper Crew [0(5)] Thumper Crew [0(5)] Trollkin Highwaymen (min) [9] - Trollkin Sorcerer (1) [3] Trollkin War Wagon (CID) [16] Very different list for sure, and i like the concept you have there. If i could bring a WW in PoD i would for sure, but right now i think theme bonuses are too powerful to miss out on  |
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on May 21, 2017 15:32:04 GMT
I built a list with her (in theme) that i will probably try out tomorrow. Do you have a Calandra KW theme list built? I keep going back to Grissel 1 and Calandra as the top KW theme warlocks. Would love to read your Battle report afterwards. |
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Post by allinontrolls on May 21, 2017 16:30:24 GMT
For our new theme I think egrim is a really solid choice. In Germany their is a really good list around before theme which just got insane in theme. I would love to play the list but don't own 2 units of sluggers + second thumber crew.
Another idea would be egrissel converting from pod to kriel theme force.
Back to topic.
I am really interested in your battle report. I do not see alot of synergy in the list. For the list I posted it's probably better in pod and adding some other beasts and free solos. But I wanna test the war wagon in our store tournament.
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joedj
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Post by joedj on May 21, 2017 18:21:21 GMT
Interesting that your tournament allows a CID model!
I agree the Skinner should be something, almost anything else.
Based on the alpha-strike bend of your army, and no Theme list use, I'd suggest Lanyssa Ryssyl.
She can provide four benefits to your army:
1. 2" greater threat range for 1-2 beasts (Slags probably)
2. Free Charge allows greater # of attacks
3. Frees up 2 Fury for Grissel (instead of Rush use can use Boundless Charge for distance and/or Rage for max damage output)
4. Provides an independent solo that may run into forest(ideal) in zone for control/contest.
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Post by Trollock on May 21, 2017 19:22:02 GMT
I built a list with her (in theme) that i will probably try out tomorrow. Do you have a Calandra KW theme list built? I keep going back to Grissel 1 and Calandra as the top KW theme warlocks. Would love to read your Battle report afterwards. I have made a few lists with calandra sure (im assuming you mean Kriel COmpany when you write "KW"), but she feels like cheating when it comes to play testing. She makes anything good. I have not played her in a while, mostly because i have had other things inspire me more. Anyway, ill try to play Grissel tomorrow and i try to write a report on the CID forum. I do like the concept of the list in the original post though. A list that is all high ARM models that can deal with heavies and infantry alike. It just misses out on 10-20 free points and free upkeeps/+1 to go first. Not sure if a theme that allows (and gives you bonuses for) those models will ever exist, but if it did, id be all over that. Our beasts are solid and the WW is solid. Many of the units allowed in KC are less than solid, and only the theme bonuses saves the list. All the models (except the skinner tbh) in the original list are solid, and the innate strength of the models could possibly make the list viable. Not convinced yet though. "Close but no cigar" i think  |
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Post by mattmcd on May 21, 2017 19:59:59 GMT
That's true about her being tough to play test with. I had not considered that. Playing with a hit buff, def buff, and armor buff is hardly a way to play test. Lol.
Shocker... it played really wel!
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ravenfire
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Post by ravenfire on May 22, 2017 12:09:54 GMT
For our new theme I think egrim is a really solid choice. In Germany their is a really good list around before theme which just got insane in theme. I would love to play the list but don't own 2 units of sluggers + second thumber crew. Another idea would be egrissel converting from pod to kriel theme force. Back to topic. I am really interested in your battle report. I do not see alot of synergy in the list. For the list I posted it's probably better in pod and adding some other beasts and free solos. But I wanna test the war wagon in our store tournament. For those who do not know the German list; can u post it or a link to it? |
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Post by Trollock on May 23, 2017 14:12:33 GMT
Played my list 3 times yesterday, but the games were absolute garbage and i cant even write a decent battle report.
Game 1 (vs new player with sloan and hunter spam)
I get to go first and run up, camping 1. I will block LoS to grissel with a bomber with hoof it, and the WW. I places one SoB too close to grissel so the WW cant get past. I die on his first turn...
Game 2 (we just re-rack and play again)
on turn 2 i spend 8 fury on my 2 bombers to shoot down his gunmage solo to get rid of shadow fire. I block LoS to grissel with Bombers and the WW and i camp 2.
He has to leave soon, so he goes for the assassination and shoots down a bomber, giving me 6 transfers... NOT... since the other bomber is full... He shoots and would have killed me easily but he rolled 3-4 on 3 of his BOOSTED damage rolls and i survive on 2 boxes. To retaliate i can send in the WW against 4 hunters to lock them down. he has to go over one Ranger to get there... i miss the boosted 8, and stop cold. Grissel can run and hide behind a forest, and we decide that we can not finish the game in time.
Game 3 (vs another cygnar player with Jakes 2)
This is a great match up for me. I murder his heavies before they do anything and same with his storm blades. He has nothing left and i will win on scenario or clock as i see fit. WW did nothing much, but that was mostly due to table state.
3 boring games, and nothing new discovered. The list seems fine, but obviously is not meant as an anti-shooting drop. Double Bomber battle groups require some new thinking, since they always want to force max, and that leaves you with no transfer target.
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Post by mattmcd on May 23, 2017 17:33:52 GMT
That's good information for me though. Must file that away to remember it when list building! Thanks for sharing.
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