A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 16, 2017 17:25:51 GMT
Just recently started playing Doomy 3. He seems like an excellent choice in the current meta. I see a lot of Fyanna' degenerate BS theme list in our meta, and Doomy 3 seems like one of the best answers in Trolls. It also plays well into a lot of other match-ups. Played it into a Harkevich theme list with a 3xKodiaks, 6xMarauders and a couple free solos. It was a grind fest, but I was able to do some work on his feat turn, and then counter feat. If he had subbed a Marauder for a Juggernaut, I think I would have been toast.
Currently playing
Doomy 3 & his scroll caddy (PoD) Runebearer Mulg Mauler Earthborn Bomber Bouncer Axer Min Stone + UA Whelps 2x Sorcerers
I see this list having trouble with dude spam lists and heavy shooting lists. Doomy is pretty fragile any turn other than the feat turn.
Some ideas I had - Madrak 2 in Band of Heros. Lots of anti-tough/RFP. - Grissel 2 built for assassination. - Gunnbjorn all in for anti shooting
I'm struggling to come up with a solid pair. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks A-Mo
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tomw
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Post by tomw on May 18, 2017 18:18:05 GMT
I play a very similar doomie 3 list (2nd mauler instead of bomber, slightly different support package), and absolutely love it! The only thing it struggles with is clearing mass infantry, so maybe a list that can do that. Also, I love using the mountain king, and don't really want him with doomie 3, so maybe consider a second list that includes him.
My pairing is a Borka1 band of heroes list with the mountain king, which covers this list's weaknesses very well. Alternatively, Grissel 2, or Madrak 3 would probably do just as well.
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Post by Trollock on May 18, 2017 19:06:24 GMT
Gunnbjorn with a MK can give infantry a run for its money imo...
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 19, 2017 7:42:52 GMT
This is what i have been runing lately for great success. Gunny list is for Cygnar in general and plays good enough to Fyanna and lylyth3 aswell. Its suprisingly effective againt most brick lists aswell as you can take out heavy on avarage dice from 17" so you usually start with 1-2 heavy advantage when the shooting comes to blows in melee.
Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] The Power of Dhunia
(Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
Janissa Stonetide [0(4)]
Troll Whelps [0(4)]
Troll Whelps [0(4)]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
[Theme] The Power of Dhunia
(Doomshaper 3) Hoarluk Doomshaper, Dire Prophet [+26]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Mountain King [36]
- Mulg the Ancient [19]
- Troll Axer [10]
- Troll Bouncer [9]
- Trollkin Runebearer [0(4)]
Northkin Shaman [0(4)]
Troll Whelps [0(4)]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
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Post by knapsen on May 19, 2017 16:21:53 GMT
This is what i have been runing lately for great success. Gunny list is for Cygnar in general and plays good enough to Fyanna and lylyth3 aswell. Its suprisingly effective againt most brick lists aswell as you can take out heavy on avarage dice from 17" so you usually start with 1-2 heavy advantage when the shooting comes to blows in melee. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] Janissa Stonetide [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Doomshaper 3) Hoarluk Doomshaper, Dire Prophet [+26] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Mountain King [36] - Mulg the Ancient [19] - Troll Axer [10] - Troll Bouncer [9] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] How do you solve Cygnar with Arcane Shield Hurricane? Which list would you play into Amon Jack Spam? |
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 19, 2017 18:26:14 GMT
Optimal solution would be Feat, Guidedfire , Place wall roughly 2.3" away from bombers close to hurricane then go all in with everything you got and you should have done roughly 40ish points of damage and if all is well from around 15-17" range so there is little to none retaliation. then on following turn clean up possible jam with janissa and mauler and go in again with bombers after eating whelps and it should go down.
for Amon thou i would most likely play with Doomy and hope for the best =)
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Post by grabsnikk on May 19, 2017 22:08:03 GMT
This is what i have been runing lately for great success. Gunny list is for Cygnar in general and plays good enough to Fyanna and lylyth3 aswell. Its suprisingly effective againt most brick lists aswell as you can take out heavy on avarage dice from 17" so you usually start with 1-2 heavy advantage when the shooting comes to blows in melee. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] Janissa Stonetide [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Doomshaper 3) Hoarluk Doomshaper, Dire Prophet [+26] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Mountain King [36] - Mulg the Ancient [19] - Troll Axer [10] - Troll Bouncer [9] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] How do you solve Cygnar with Arcane Shield Hurricane? Which list would you play into Amon Jack Spam? Gunnbjorn would probably be the best into non trencher Cygnar here. Two turns of 8 fully boosted Bomber shots seems pretty strong. Although Doomy3 can do pretty well into Cygnar too as long as you can get up the table quickly before feating. Into Amon Jack Spam its not even a close decision. Choir stops bombers shooting so Doomy3 is the way to go. |
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A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 21, 2017 21:13:28 GMT
Some good suggestions. I'm thinking of something along these lines.
Gunny (PoD)
- Runebearer
- Mountain King
- Bomber x2
- Axer
Whelps
Northkin Shaman x2
Min Stone + UA
Dhunia Knot
The Axer seems out of place, but the more I think about it, I like it. He's a credible threat with Rage & the Knot; rush is also pretty helpful. Not only for charges, but adding +2" of movement on the Bombers could catch people off guard.
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Post by Andrivan on May 22, 2017 0:04:14 GMT
Ragnor, Gunny and Calandra could all be good pairs depending upon how you build them. Ragnor especially can field multiple Axers without difficulty and with Pulverizer, Rage and Stone they can take out heavies without issue to boot.
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A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 22, 2017 15:27:22 GMT
I'd definitely pull Ragnor from that list. Him and Doomy3 play too similar of a game. I'd say Ragnor leans a little more to offense while Doomy leans more to defense.
I'm headed to the LGS today with the Gunny list to try it out.
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Post by Andrivan on May 22, 2017 15:34:02 GMT
I'd definitely pull Ragnor from that list. Him and Doomy3 play too similar of a game. I'd say Ragnor leans a little more to offense while Doomy leans more to defense. I'm headed to the LGS today with the Gunny list to try it out. That entirely depends upon your build and the opponent. I have run them as a pairing and they do well. They have the added benefit of forcing the opponent into their anti brick option |
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A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 22, 2017 17:04:04 GMT
I don't know. Seems like putting all your eggs in one basket.
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Post by randommovement on May 22, 2017 19:13:04 GMT
Ive run D3 and ragnor when i want to force the brick at my meta. I run ragnor as more of a assasin threat when i do.
D3 can be run as a your take all or match up caster depending on build. So pick the pair accordingly.
We have alot of good options at caster so find what fits your style.
D3/GRISSEL2 is what ive been working on recently as she does what my ragnor list does, but maybe better.
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A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 23, 2017 19:30:33 GMT
Played my Gunny list twice last night. First was against Baulder2 with a Wold Wrath, Megalith & Fulcrum. I ended up going second. I almost lost a bomber (under stone & no upkeeps) to all the shooting in his list. Brought him down to 9 health. Thought maybe I had made a mistake by not Feating. Turns out not. Opponent left the Wrath just barely in the MK's threat. His hope was that under his feat I wouldn't be able to kill it, and he'd be in a good spot the following turn. I feated, and basically put all my shots into the Wrath. 4 bombs (with puppet master) & 1 bazooka, with all boosted damage and. I rolled above average, and chipped a couple points off. ARM 23, pretty good. MK gets rush, and goes in on the Wrath, Rages himself, and is able to kill the Wrath thanks to rerolling a triple 1 damage role with puppet master. Now he's stuck with a MK that he can't damage with ranged attacks. He sends Baulder, Megs & some mannikans, but leave the MK on a couple boxes. Opponent called it there.
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A-Mo
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Post by A-Mo on May 23, 2017 19:40:13 GMT
Second game was against an Arkadius player. I got to go first this time. Everything runs up. MK is central behind a long forrest. He moves up, and puts a road hog in front of Arkadius. I puppet master Gunny and boost a shot at the road hog. Hit, but no crit. Reroll. Hit with a 6 and double 1's. Slam hits Arkadius (camping 2). Bomber puts two bombs into Arkadius, and brings him down to around 3, after spending a fury. My other bomber is just out of range. I could get the MK to assault him, but with one transfer I wouldn't have been able to seal the deal. I end up just shuffling up. I position poorly and a primaled Lug & roadhog are able to kill the MK fairly easily. Opps. The rest of his list jams. I go for an assassination, but I'm not able to get through his transfers, and I concede, since Gunny was going to get promptly killed. Between trying to work out the Arkadius Feat threat (through forests), hyper aggressive and learning a new caster; mistakes were made.  Still, the list seems like a good compliment to Doomy3. I'll probably stick with these two till Lock n Load. Maybe try Grissel 2, but probably not. |
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