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Post by Cryptix on Jun 4, 2017 22:43:44 GMT
Feel free to prove that tempest isn't better than time bomb, but in general I think you'll find that you are wrong. RNG 8 vs RNG 10 in a faction without arc nodes vs a faction with an arc node colossal POW 12 vs POW 14 Shakeable by literally everyone in the game AOE knockdown vs nothing you can do about it single target -2 SPD and DEF Literally cannot cast the only spell that keeps her alive half the time if she uses it vs being able to stay 26" away. A spell is more than the sum of its effects.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Jun 4, 2017 22:45:50 GMT
Feel free to prove that tempest isn't better than time bomb, but in general I think you'll find that you are wrong. If a Warcaster had access to both scourge and Tempest then YES I would be asking for Time bomb because at least it fills another niche. Not really at all. Because something is more then just the sum of its parts. Of course your also ignoring in the many ways that Haley 2 has a better spell list but you don't care. "DATS DA JOKE" But its a very powerful spell, so it would make Journeyman Vlad compensate for his lack of snipe and Arcane shield with having access to that spell. Just ignore everything else. Mkay. It was also in an utterly different Meta with vastly different Infantry (Even In Khador). But whatever. Kharchev is broken (Please nerf) because he can threaten Haley2, but Haley 2 isn't broken because if you style an army entirely around guns she's manageable (I haven't even played against her but the arguments made in how shes "Fine" make it sound utterly rediculous". Also her flaw is that she likes to keep back, and it stil counts when she has all the neccary resources in order to play as back as she wants, but Sorcha 1 makes up or her lack of arcnodes with the spell she would have to cast in order to retreat out of harms way several liming her focus availibility. I never said Haley wasn't op, I was saying that if you want to claim that then don't use hyperbole or lies. Base your opinions on facts based on the table rather than dojo or memes. Also, the fact that you feel that you can make such a sweeping statement while lacking experience is very telling.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Jun 4, 2017 22:47:01 GMT
Feel free to prove that tempest isn't better than time bomb, but in general I think you'll find that you are wrong. RNG 8 vs RNG 10 in a faction without arc nodes vs a faction with an arc node colossal POW 12 vs POW 14 Shakeable by literally everyone in the game AOE knockdown vs nothing you can do about it single target -2 SPD and DEF Literally cannot cast the only spell that keeps her alive half the time if she uses it vs being able to stay 26" away. A spell is more than the sum of its effects. If you are casting tempest and aren't doing it to slap down someone who has overextended or winning the game, you are doing it wrong.
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Post by Cryptix on Jun 4, 2017 22:49:12 GMT
RNG 8 vs RNG 10 in a faction without arc nodes vs a faction with an arc node colossal POW 12 vs POW 14 Shakeable by literally everyone in the game AOE knockdown vs nothing you can do about it single target -2 SPD and DEF Literally cannot cast the only spell that keeps her alive half the time if she uses it vs being able to stay 26" away. A spell is more than the sum of its effects. If you are casting tempest and aren't doing it to slap down someone who has overextended or winning the game, you are doing it wrong. Considering that if she's doing most likely she can only allocate one, unless the caster has really messed up bad and got about half their jacks or beasts killed, yeah no. While again, Time Bomb can be used nearly anywhere on the board by turn two is considering one of her least powerful spells.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Jun 4, 2017 22:52:33 GMT
If you are casting tempest and aren't doing it to slap down someone who has overextended or winning the game, you are doing it wrong. Considering that if she's doing most likely she can only allocate one, unless the caster has really messed up bad and got about half their jacks or beasts killed, yeah no. While again, Time Bomb can be used nearly anywhere on the board by turn two is considering one of her least powerful spells. Extending mediocrity *really far* isnt a big deal. Casting arcane bolts that far is pretty cool, though. I just don't see how this matters to nerfing Haley?
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Post by Ryilan on Jun 4, 2017 22:55:56 GMT
People are starting to make personal comments towards each other. Considering the previous warnings, it's time to lock this thread.
Ryilan
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 4, 2017 22:56:01 GMT
I play H2 somewhat regularly, and since time bomb got nerfed, it doesn't really come up. -2 def and spd one thing aren't often worth 4 focus. It's a pretty darn good nuke, of course. But it doesn't seem to be a big issue in her kit.
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