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Post by grimgor on Dec 19, 2018 7:30:47 GMT
Where would you drop bearka these days ?
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Post by grimgor on Nov 8, 2018 22:12:39 GMT
I like too the mhean list. But the hr list i used to face have visgoth and vassal mekanik, so he have 2 shield that can come back on his feat and he can repair his judicator.
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Post by grimgor on Nov 8, 2018 18:13:37 GMT
I mean, if you really want to tech for high reclaimer, you could play horgle2. No blast...beasts are immune to fire. Seems like a good start. That should be good if the list that could handle HR judicator could handle others things in the meta. What do you think about it with your pairing actually ?
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Post by grimgor on Nov 8, 2018 15:33:31 GMT
RFP is important not for the errant version but for the cinerators/bastion or vengers version. You can also win against Harbinger cause you have a lot of shooting with the list (even behind a wall she is not safe). Gunnbjorn is pretty good into most gunlines, and dependings on the table you can always try a caster kill. You can play him into most warmachine, and probably some hordes too (avoiding trolls and hard anti gunlines). He is not super meta but still good enough to give it a try. I will certainly try it, one of my regular opponent play hr and harbinger... hr judicator with errants and visgoth i think it's the best version against trolls.
Kolgrima doesn't work, i was thinking about grim 4 huges bases he seems to have a lot good matchups on others things too.
I don't own a glacier king maybe i will try this kind of list with 2 bombers, and i like gunnjborn too I played it a lot in PoD list but i think it's too hard to play it more with this SR and the tools we have in this theme
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Post by grimgor on Nov 8, 2018 14:58:44 GMT
I tried kolgrimma in Sotn several times it doesn't work. The judi doesn't shoot one turn, but it isn't enough, with his 2 range 14 shoots he takes almost 60% life of a beast and the spray completly destroy champions, bears, anything. I'm not sure that RFP can be a great answer, if he have errants he would have anyway a feat. I don't think madrak is especially doing great into it, all your champions would die easy and the +2 def is useless, the only thing that madrak do is that your list is tough steady, i think i would prefer madrak 3 atleast you should have a 4+ tough. I like the mhean idea, i think it's certainly the best thing we could do, i was thinking about a PoD gunnjborn, but PoD is really bad on scenario... But where can we drop this gunnjborn list except hr judicator ? Harbinger is too a big problem for trolls
Edit : i remenber that HR can play visgoth, so he would have 2 shield guard that can come back on the feat and vassal mechanik, so the shooting way can be wrong...
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Post by grimgor on Oct 17, 2018 18:17:25 GMT
I'm interested in the fact that most of people here think that madrak 1 is better than kolgrimma. Could you say why you think that ? For me kolgrimma's feat that prevent shooting and her sprays/clouds are her best arguments. Even ground is certainly the best argument for madrak 1 and his feat but can be countered by a lot of thing (stalkers, anamag, blessed (Menoth), wraithbane, arcana accursed, Mortality, ...)
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Post by grimgor on Oct 17, 2018 9:30:58 GMT
Top : Kolgrimma
Bottom 3 : Doomy 1, Madrak 3, Borka 1.
Atleast, i think Grissel has more interesting things to do than borka 1. Madrak's 3 design is very interesting too, but his spell list is too weak, and his feat too much random, atleast we should have parry on the 3" move... The stone aura isn't enough too
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Post by grimgor on Sept 20, 2018 10:13:24 GMT
The fact is that borka 2 PoD seems to have an auto lose on mirage and spread the net most of the time. I never manage to win with any PoD list on spread the net. Then i prefer borka 2 SoTN, but i'm not sure borka 2 is now a good an answer in the meta, even if he is great caster with some really good matchups. And if u play PoD list with a SoTN or BOH list, i see often list chicken.
I did a match against brisbane 1 with 2 BE and 1 hurricane (with chris dancocks list), he almost table me, but in late game borka just take one BE and then the hurricane already wounded by the bears. BOrka stand in the middle on the table threatening brisbane. That was very funny, but i didn't have anything more to contest and lost on scenario. The feat wasn't enough to protect me from his shoots...
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Post by grimgor on Sept 18, 2018 6:33:41 GMT
We can see too that on 4 victory 3 are for chris dancocks et 1 for tim blanky
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Post by grimgor on Sept 17, 2018 11:06:38 GMT
Tim Banky got to the semi finals with Trolls and won a lot of matchups. His borka2 list did very well.
The issue was more that most European players where using Borka2 in SotN which did a lot worse.
I actually think, that Borka2 is getting behind on current meta. Borka2 is anti-gunline caster and ~year past when northkin stuff was released gunlines were dominating list type. Now meta has changed so that dominant list types are cheap jacks and hard hitting medi-infantry / cavalry where SotN Borka2 struggle more. But if you really want an anti gunline kolgrima seems to be just better and even gunnjborn no ? Kolgrima does a lot of things that borka is doing already but just better. If u can't shot it's just better than stealth (plus the clouds, no eyeless sight,...)
The only thing i see borka is doing better is his profile, and the 2nd part of his feat. I agree too that PoD is really bad for us, i just want the benefits from WWFF, imagine just +2spd and run for free first turn for beasts lists it would be amazing, overtake would be to much i think lol. Instead of a garbage serenity on dhunians knots. Next CiD maybe
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Post by grimgor on Sept 17, 2018 7:51:14 GMT
I played a lot borka 2 with tim blanky and chris dancock version but not with a lot of success, i played them in France and Italy. I was asking to me why he don't work there and work in america (maybe i'm just bad ? lol). A lot of people tell me it's because meta is very different in America (Canada too) and in Europa. So maybe it's that, borka 2 work good in America but not in Europa. And that's true that lists are a bit differents. For example dreamer is played with 6 heavies in europa, 5 in America. What do you think about that ?
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Post by grimgor on Sept 1, 2018 17:29:23 GMT
Nice write up thanks. Where would you drop actually doomy 3 ? He seems to be terrible in this meta, you can't into grymkin, boros with bradigus is hard too (2 guardians with synergy max can one round a mk under doomy 3 feat), everblight have now anamag even if i don't know if it should be correct into doomy 3. He has terrible weakness on a lot of scenarios like spread the net, and in PoD we don't have a lot of attacks so it's hard i think into classic lists with 2-3 beasts/jacks and warrior models.
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Post by grimgor on May 21, 2018 5:04:25 GMT
And almost all grymkin because of their BE and arcana. Or the of your feat, you can't damaged things with a corpse, so almost all their beasts and the BE.
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Post by grimgor on May 18, 2018 20:04:41 GMT
With so many games you did with kolgrima PoD, how do you feel her in the meta actually ? I played a few games with her in PoD, we're lacking always presence on scenarios game because it's PoD, but that's true that her spray with a mulg arcnode really help against some list with a lot of unit. And arcane vortex is such great for the list. But i wonder if the SoTN version with bears/FE/champions can't be just better in much situations, what's your mind about this ?
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Post by grimgor on May 18, 2018 19:51:45 GMT
I played Borka PoD at Italian master and finally i think it's better in SoTN. This was too difficult to drop him, and 2 times he gives me a list chicken. I think PoD is our worst theme now, because we don't have enough tools to score on scenario and handle units. Whelps are cool but gremlin swarm/manikins etc are so much better. Many lists with a large battlegroup in other factions have that like orboros/grimkin/CoC etc... Expect kolgrima because of her spray and mulg arcnode, i think she is our best list in PoD Actually but but but! we have runeshapers! [/sarcasm] XD I would love that they could have a up, they are again on the nerf they took because they were in our best theme in mk2
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