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Post by bobaflex1911 on Apr 27, 2017 14:03:50 GMT
So I've been thinking about running a Zerkova2 list. I've been running Butcher1 and I'm looking to try something different. So here goes nothing!
Zerkova2 75/75
-Sylys
-Spriggan
-Kodiak
Greylord Forge Seer
-Juggernaut
Koldun Lord
Greylord Ternion
Greylord Ternion
Doom Reaver
Doom Reaver
-Greylord Escort
If you have any better ideas on what I could bring let me know.
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Post by borderprince on Apr 27, 2017 14:37:36 GMT
I like this list because it is wonderfully thematic, but I think there are a few issues here. Frankly, a Graylord/Reaver themed list probably needs to wait until the theme list is out, but until then:
1 - Doomreavers and Ternion are both fairly vulnerable models to shooting. To get Doomreavers to melee you need something that buffs their DEF/protects from shooting entirely. This list has Ternion clouds for that. But the Ternion will slow down the Doomreavers (need to be behind the Ternion who are casting spells, so no AD or running). If you want to ue Ternion clouds to screen, something like Eliminators are better as cloud targets (fast, hard to kill). Zerkova1 with clouds, or Sorcha1 with Fog of War are probably better for getting Doomreavers to melee.
Given how brutal Zerkova2's feat can be the Ternion may be high priority targets, and they're not that difficult to kill, making the feat less effective.
2 - No obviously good Arc Node target for Zerkova. Something fast and/or stealthy is a good choice. Eliminators or Outriders are the obvious choices.
3 - It's not clear to me why you've chosen the particular jacks and their allocation to Zerkova or the Forgeseer.
Is the idea of the Juggernaut to Empower it twice on Feat turn to get more or less a full focus load equivalent for the Juggernaut? If so, wouldn't Malakov1 work better (Power up, Allocate 2, Feat for Redline to get speed and damage boosts and still have focus for a Razorwind, probably with a boosted to hit from Z2)?
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Post by bobaflex1911 on Apr 28, 2017 12:35:08 GMT
I think I was more going for a theme feeling list. But I do see what you're saying about shooting taking out most of my army before I get into melee. I definitely want to bring ternions and have no problem dropping the Reavers. I could bring Black Dragons to walk up in front of them to guard the ternions until Z2 fest kicks in. As for the jack I didn't really do much thinking on them. I could give Zerkova two Juggernauts and Forgeseer a Distroyer. Maybe even double up on the Eliminators.
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Post by bobaflex1911 on Apr 28, 2017 12:39:15 GMT
So that would then change the list to:
Zerkova2
-Sylys
-Jugg
-Jugg
Forgeseer
-Distroyer
Koldun Lord
Ternions
Ternions
(Max) Black Dragons
-UA
IronFang Kovnik
(2)Eliminators
Thoughts?
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Post by auraco on Apr 28, 2017 14:21:10 GMT
You have so few good feat target and next to no long range attack that I'm not sure why Zerkova is that caster... From my experiences Zerkova2 is an assassination caster, so she wants good ranged and magic in her list, your current list doesn't so I'm not sure what your battle plan is exactly.
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Post by h4ppynz on Apr 29, 2017 0:02:50 GMT
I like list two better than list one. Haven't played Zerkova 2 yet but I intend to when the Greylord theme comes out.
Do you have the Ternion Cav? They are a great piece with Z2 - they can alone kill quite a few casters from 17" (?) away with boosted magical 6 power 12 sprays 10 if they don't have to run.
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