skormedlover87
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Post by skormedlover87 on Apr 27, 2017 21:42:53 GMT
Does no one notice that the Meat Thresher just became the game's best caster assassin? It also gained volume fire like the Siege Animantarax (+1/+2 to hit and damage against medium/larger bases) but it's gun went to d3+1 instead of 2d3.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 22:36:33 GMT
Wow...They reduced the Gun Carriage Attack Range by 6 Inches. 6....Inches. 3 from reduced range, and 3 lost from trample.
A Regular Destroyer without Speed buffs threatens it now (with arcing attacks).
Boosted Impact attacks are fine I guess....I mean your gonna pull it off ONCE before engaging in melee, but that sure was worth the loss of 6 inches for a model I didn't consider stellar to begin with.
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Juris
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Post by Juris on May 3, 2017 23:23:20 GMT
Wow...They reduced the Gun Carriage Attack Range by 6 Inches. 6....Inches. 3 from reduced range, and 3 lost from trample. A Regular Destroyer without Speed buffs threatens it now (with arcing attacks). Boosted Impact attacks are fine I guess....I mean your gonna pull it off ONCE before engaging in melee, but that sure was worth the loss of 6 inches for a model I didn't consider stellar to begin with. Yea...it's still ARM20 with 38 boxes. Most things don't actually kill it by themselves in melee. A fully loaded Ironclad only deals 23 damage to it, that's barely half its health. A Primaled Warpwolf Stalker even comes up short (deals 37 damage on average if it charges). With beef that serious, it really shouldn't also have such a huge threat range. It's the second most tanky Battle Engine in the game now (only 2 boxes fewer than the Siege Crawler), so it's appropriate that its offensive output is brought more in line with the Siege Crawler.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 23:26:41 GMT
Yea...it's still ARM20 with 38 boxes. Most things don't actually kill it by themselves in melee. A fully loaded Ironclad only deals 23 damage to it, that's barely half its health. A Primaled Warpwolf Stalker even comes up short (deals 37 damage on average if it charges). That's a niche Khador really aggressively doesn't care about. From Juggers, to Decimators, Khadors Jacks Survive charges fine. I'm a guy who brings mechanics so I generally don't have a problem with systems. Khador doesn't need another Brick.
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Juris
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Post by Juris on May 3, 2017 23:39:33 GMT
Yea...it's still ARM20 with 38 boxes. Most things don't actually kill it by themselves in melee. A fully loaded Ironclad only deals 23 damage to it, that's barely half its health. A Primaled Warpwolf Stalker even comes up short (deals 37 damage on average if it charges). That's a niche Khador really aggressively doesn't care about. From Juggers, to Decimators, Khadors Jacks Survive charges fine. I'm a guy who brings mechanics so I generally don't have a problem with systems. Khador doesn't need another Brick. It's a brick that generates rough terrain. Don't underestimate the value of two 4" rough terrain templates. It also has two POW16 guns (granted, range much shorter now) and Dual Attack. Warcasters and Warlocks hate getting shot by POW16's, even unboosted. It can shoot them even while in melee. There is value there. Its mount still has momentum, which is also huge. D3 slams and/or knockdown provides control and scenario play, plus caster (or other model) assassination support. Again, more value.
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Post by sand20go on May 4, 2017 21:50:04 GMT
That's a niche Khador really aggressively doesn't care about. From Juggers, to Decimators, Khadors Jacks Survive charges fine. I'm a guy who brings mechanics so I generally don't have a problem with systems. Khador doesn't need another Brick. It's a brick that generates rough terrain. Don't underestimate the value of two 4" rough terrain templates. It also has two POW16 guns (granted, range much shorter now) and Dual Attack. Warcasters and Warlocks hate getting shot by POW16's, even unboosted. It can shoot them even while in melee. There is value there. Its mount still has momentum, which is also huge. D3 slams and/or knockdown provides control and scenario play, plus caster (or other model) assassination support. Again, more value. I think that is correct. Getting boosted impact attack rolls would be huge because it is NOT that hard with proper support that is likely coming ANYWAY (widows, WGIRC) to clear enough out to then open up the big huge 5 inch lane. With impact attacks (though I wonder if perhaps we shouldn't make the RNG 1 inch) that are boosted we reduce the stupid failed impact attack risk and then truly open up viable slam stuff into caster and then shoot it assassination runs. With 38 boxes it reduces the chances of dynamo shooting it off the board ;-)
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 9, 2017 18:35:35 GMT
I wonder how people keep finding these assassination scenarios where the caster is just bunched up in infantry just waiting for a 1D3 Inch slam attack against it.
If your opponent knows what a Gun Carriage can do, they won't leave it at an angle to be 1D3 inch slammed by.
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Post by elladan52 on May 9, 2017 18:48:02 GMT
What is the salt wheeler? Is it the War Wagon or the Salt Wheeler?
Edit: Well that answers that question. And it's an idiotic filter.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 9, 2017 19:05:53 GMT
What is the salt wheeler? Is it the War Wagon or the Salt Wheeler? Edit: Well that answers that question. And it's an idiotic filter. Hey you leave the Salt Wheeler alone!
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on May 9, 2017 19:23:42 GMT
What is a salt wheeler? I really don't want to test the filter.
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Post by elladan52 on May 9, 2017 19:26:12 GMT
What is a salt wheeler? I really don't want to test the filter. Exactly. It's the G.Un Carriage
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Post by The Trane on May 9, 2017 19:26:40 GMT
I think it's a nick for the Khador Gun Carriage.
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Post by The Trane on May 9, 2017 19:27:03 GMT
Oh.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 9, 2017 19:27:29 GMT
What is a salt wheeler? I really don't want to test the filter. Its a demon from another Plane. Swampists did what he could to prevent the unholies of Zegolateral demonoids from escaping their containment. Those fools at PP had no idea what they where doing.... its the WGGC
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on May 9, 2017 19:31:44 GMT
Thanks you all, so the salt wheeler is the Salt Wheeler then.
Edit: Dammit, the salt wheeler is the Carriage with the Guns
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