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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 13, 2020 9:22:39 GMT
I'm looking at the pledge manager right now, and I'm a little confused by some of the options. The description for the "Bounty Token Card Deck" is simply "New Bounty Card Deck". What does that mean? Are they simply duplicates of cards from the existing boxes? If so is there any advantage to buying a second deck? Would I want to buy even more if I plan on playing 3 and 4 player games? Or are they new cards that are not in either of the existing boxes?
Are the Strike Dice exactly the same as the Monsterpocalypse dice? I already have two sets of Monpoc dice, can I use those for 4 player games or would it be better to buy two sets of Riotquest dice?
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Post by P'tit Nico on Aug 13, 2020 11:39:49 GMT
I'm looking at the pledge manager right now, and I'm a little confused by some of the options. The description for the "Bounty Token Card Deck" is simply "New Bounty Card Deck". What does that mean? Are they simply duplicates of cards from the existing boxes? If so is there any advantage to buying a second deck? Would I want to buy even more if I plan on playing 3 and 4 player games? Or are they new cards that are not in either of the existing boxes? New cards that are not in either of the existing boxes. Are the Strike Dice exactly the same as the Monsterpocalypse dice? I already have two sets of Monpoc dice, can I use those for 4 player games or would it be better to buy two sets of Riotquest dice? Yes, the dice are the same as the Monsterpocalypse dice.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 13, 2020 12:53:34 GMT
Thanks! Sounds like it's worth adding a set of those cards.
I am... a little bit hesitant to spend in the Pledge Manager right now, because a) everything in the pledge manager seems to cost exactly one cent more than it does in PP's webstore, and b) I can sometimes get discounts on PP's webstore, making that a much cheaper option.
Obviously (b) is the more relevant concern. I'm not exactly sure that I'm going to be putting in an order with PP's webstore for a while though (I've spent all my money on W:NM and RQ...), so adding things to the Kickstarter order will probably save me a lot overall in the form of postage. Hmm. Making sensible decisions about how to spend money on expensive toys that I may never even use is hard.
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Post by marxlives on Aug 13, 2020 15:38:59 GMT
by the way, is Captain Karli a Tharn? I can't think of any other reason why she'd look like PF Hobgoblin. Apparently she's a Cygnar Trencher model, which is just.... bizarre, if she's actually Tharn. Edit: nevermind, she's an Ogrun. I agree with alot of you points. I play RQ and have a lot of fun with it. One of the few games where you want a bunch of players to compete on the same board to just hieghten the madness. But yes, the artwork is WAY better than the box and it makes me wonder why the poses were changed for some of them. Bella's, emperess stance just seems too cool and confident. PP does show it is capable of making awesome sculpts because many out of the 1st season of RQ and sculpts outside of the season 2 box are VERY gorgeous. Definietly worthy of fielding with a WM army as is or just as alt sculpts.
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Post by marxlives on Aug 13, 2020 15:46:41 GMT
It's meaningful in that, if I'm correctly remembering what my old economics teacher told me twenty years ago, demand is inversely proportional to price. So if PP's starter products are more expensive than popular alternatives, they will achieve less market penetration, meaning it will be harder to find people to play with and/or harder to convince your friends to buy into the game. Also we might just be at the start of a massive economic depression; for some people money is tight right now, and might get worse. Personally I've been paid half my actual salary for the last three months. I mean, like I said I still went in on Riot Quest and I have zero interest in Underworlds, but that's because I want Riot Quest (for the reasons I mentioned above) and I don't want Underworlds - and also because I'm not very financially responsible - so I understand your point Micheal, but that doesn't mean the price isn't meaningful. Well, that's just it -- price isn't the sole factor to consider. Economics is hardly as simple as that old "inversely proportional" graph.
Apple can sell their latest iPhone for $1. GW could roll up to my door with a dumptruck full of Space Marines and tell me they're mine for $1. That doesn't mean I have any interest at all in owning those items. I think you both make good points. I think RQ needs a lower price point, maybe not at the PP level but if they loosen their rules for online retailers (especially with CoVid), online stores and retailers could sell the products at a cheaper price with the old school 25-30 percent off discount. Espeically since the rules for RQ are so good in comparison to Underworlds. Underworlds is a card chase, Magic the Miiatures. It starts off at a lower rate but if you want that specific card to make your crew good, prepare to buy set 1-10 set keep up and some of those may become obsolete in a year. While RQ is a straight casual game that can be run competitively.
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Post by marxlives on Aug 13, 2020 15:53:29 GMT
I must say I am leaning more and more toward PP for all aspects. I know this is somewhat controversial maybe. But it is my real and honest and personal option: 1) Obviously its the rules, GW ist still painfull to play and broken beyond compare. It works for a fun game with friends but if you just meet someone you do not know to play a game, there is a good cahnge of it being a bad experience. 2) The background. GW is just grim dark with a little dark and despair und dead Robo-Babies mixed in (The new rulebook - brr). They lost all the fun and irony on their way and take themselves way too serious for what the universe is. Its a fascinating setting but with no valuable story (unless you play HH). I prefer PPs fresh and fun attitude with Riot Quest, MonPoc and Minicrate. And also the deeper setting of the IK RPG - there is intersting stories, real plot developement and you can really invest in the setting. 3) The Design and Models (yes really the Models). All the Models mentioned above also have interesting design approaches and a unique feel to them. I can't stand stupid skulls anymore. GW puts out models that all look the same (newer stuff) or were horrible designs (7th Edition Space Marine Suff like Centurions and oversizes gun stuff). This is really boring, we saw a nice new Kit for almost every old Kit now (Or not if you are Eldar) in 40k, but nothing seriously new. And Aos is just relly not my style. And then you need to build the GW stuff. It took me HOURS to build the new Skitarii Tank and a unit. Its taking forever the pieces are small beyond reasoning. You even get pre-defined designs in the plastic now. I just like my old chuncky Resin/Metal kits. They build fast and they paint nicely. Its amazing what GW can do with plastic, but its really getting too much. Ya, military warmachine non-character jacks all looking standardized is kinda of the point. One of the upsides and downsides of WM is the infantry. Compare the details of a trencher/winterguard and they hands down have more detail than a GW guardsman or SM. You see the a ruck, sleeping pad, shovel, pouchers, bandolier, armor layers, even a coffee tin for Christ's sakes. Honestly, if I did get back into 40k again, I would probably use many of the WM infantry and just cut off the gun and replace it with a laz. And just paint the armor non metalic to make it look laz.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Sept 5, 2020 12:27:26 GMT
I just wanted to share this photo from the latest KS update:
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Post by Soul Samurai on Sept 12, 2020 10:05:26 GMT
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Post by snoozer on Sept 12, 2020 10:32:32 GMT
I really like how Jordan is able to get those popping metal colours going, more like the older PP stuff. Really nice models coming there!
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