Infernals Info (updating as twitch streams)

Yeah, they don't give a damn. Even gw doesn't do this anymore outside of casual "anything goes" play.
I think it's wise to boycott the cid until this gets removed.

OK. As is, Hearts of Darkness is obviously broken. Why waste the community's time with that garbage? Why waste development and testing time? 

They arent wasting anyones time.  Were beta testers.  We get things to test and report how and why they break/work.  They dont “owe” the community mostly functional things that can fly straight to shelves.  Right now everyone is rushing to put the most broken combos together and thats great data.  What if its not all models or interractions?  What if theres a more limited list of warcasters that would work fine?  What if there are fun things about the lists that can be toned down and salvaged something else?

I dont usually throw my hat into these things, but all I see on our local facebook and other forums is discussion of this theme. Which likely means the first week of cid will be spent on a theme and less on the actual faction identity of masters and horrors.

Which is a shame, I was liking the ideal and mechanics of (relative) scrub beasts/infantry backed by super solos and casters. Then the theme drops and I get its not its final form but leaves a sour taste in many peoples mouth, including mine. Cherrypicking a 2 casters pairing, each having 3 extra units (1 faction/1 merc) 4 solos and then infernal options per list as a possible SR pairing? No way that can be playtested fully in 3 weeks. And kinda defeats the purpose of playing a "faction" imho. One of the reasons I came to WMH was disliking the 40k soup of knights, knights, and bannana boys. But thats just my view and kneejerk response. I'm no super comp player, but I dont see how this can come out and not just end up with players having to deal with myriad combos baked up every release cycle

They could have done a sercret masters theme at launch, then later tested this theme. Just my two cents

I'm sorry, I totally forgot that people play CID games with a gun to their head.

Here’s Soles response on the theme, and I think its a good directional note for the testing. “The theme force is a toolbox. As we discover unintended or broken interactions we will move to address them. That will likely necessitate the theme becoming less general and more restrictive. One possible direction we could move in is something more like the Llaelese theme force. That is not our preferred direction at his time however.”

Tl;dr Bring us the most broken crap you can think of and try it.

Re Hearts of Darkness. Does this mean that in order to play Infernals to their full extent, i.e. both themes, you also need to buy a fairly significant Khador/Cygnar/CG army?

When they said that infernals had sleeper agents I assumed that there would be a number of individual casters or solos that could be played cross faction. Not entire factions playing in Infernals.