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Post by MrHaystacks on Sept 18, 2018 11:26:42 GMT
Each of the warbeasts are a nightmare of The Deniers. I don't have access to the grymkin book and its a bit of the fluff that is intriguing me, as if there are more deniers can we infer what they could be based on the remaining beasts. Here are my guesses The Heretic - Skin and Moans (?) The Dreamer - Rattler (Constaly keeps you awake?) The Child - Frightmare (destroys eve3rything with its spit?) The King of Nothing - Crabbit (?) (they wont leave you alone?) The Wanderer - Cage Rager(?) (Traps you in the cages?)
leaving the gore hound left. This also kinda ties in to the 7 deadly sins theme someone else mentioned.
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Post by doopsie on Sept 19, 2018 1:43:45 GMT
So, to my recollection from the fluff (which may be totally wrong), only the heavies were really called out -
Cage Rager - Wanderer (doesn't want to be trapped in one spot) Skin & Moans - King of Nothing (its a bunch of people. He hates people)
For the lights, Rattler is presumably Wanderer as well (chained down), the rest are simply nightmarish creatures dreamed up by the Child (cause she's a little kid).
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Post by challenger on Sept 19, 2018 6:06:20 GMT
It'd be thematic if the clockatrice was Old Witch' nightmare - even though shes not a denier.
It'd signify her fear of running out of time to save everyone from the infernals
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Post by Azahul on Sept 20, 2018 10:17:40 GMT
The Clockatrice feels like a compelling argument for the Dreamer's nightmare. It's a rooster combined with a clock. No way are you going to sleep past dawn with it around.
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Post by Qrow on Sept 20, 2018 13:01:32 GMT
The Clockatrice feels like a compelling argument for the Dreamer's nightmare. It's a rooster combined with a clock. No way are you going to sleep past dawn with it around. That is a really good point
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Post by overmind on Feb 12, 2019 6:47:47 GMT
Sooo looking over the book (I'll get page citations later, it's been a long weekend)
Skin and Moans - king of nothing, it is literally a concentrated mass of people and the sounds they make, a walking crowd if you will. Basically everything he hates. Cage Rager - wanderer, which makes the most sense. He's a jail cell to the nomad guy. Not a big leap. Rattler - The Heretic apparently. It reminds him of prostrating before Menoth, of flagellating himself and the binding of his potential inside his own skin. Gorehound - the child, she's scared of wolfs and the dark Frightmare - the child, it's a composite of things that frighten children Crabbbits - again the child.... seems like everything that's just 'mash these three things into a single awful thing' is the child Phantasms - are the dreamers nightmares, the book calls out that her nightmares in the beginning were cutsey and unthreatening and the other nightmares loved to feast on her and her little friends the most. Dolly - Also the dreamer, the child convinces the dreamer to dream up a guardian beast for the Child, to keep the child safe in Urcaen.
I like the idea of the clockatrice being assocaited with The Old Witch, her greatest nightmare is running out of time to solve the problem with the infernals. Don't know how that works with her ot being a true defier though. Could be the reality warping power the defiers bring with them is begining to take hold, as they treat her like an ally and one of them she becomes closer to it being true. Idk.
Sorry for the necro,it took a little while for my application to the forum to be approved.
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Post by unded on Feb 25, 2019 20:53:20 GMT
I thought the beasts were more generic manifestations - the cage rager being a fear of being confined in urcaen, and similar things like that which would apply to all the defiers.
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doopsie
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Post by doopsie on Feb 25, 2019 22:04:59 GMT
nah, the book specifically called out the heavies, at least to my recollection.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Feb 26, 2019 9:39:50 GMT
I'm not sure if the Old Witch would actually dream at all. She's not a being we have any knowledge about, just that she for some reason is (mostly) on humanity's side. We don't know what actually drives her or if she actually "fears" anything, do we?
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Post by overmind on Feb 27, 2019 4:40:15 GMT
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I meant nightmare in the more figurative sense for her. We know she's worried about the Infernals coming, the release vids for both Grymkin and Infernals make that clear. The book also has a section on her motivations as well, making it clear that she considers a delay to the invasion of the inferals worth almost any cost. Still it's not like she seems afraid over all, but knowing how the dreamer can make dolly from the tales the child made up, it makes sense that the tales the Witch shares with the Defiers might similarly lead to clockatrice I guess?
Hard to tell with Privateer Press not really releasing fluff these days.
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Post by thelat on May 1, 2019 22:29:07 GMT
They did say in a dev chat that the warbeasts were combinations of multiple deniers' nightmares, and that the deniers had multiple fears originally, but that their nature was refined in the extended torture period.
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