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Post by onijet01 on Jun 17, 2018 11:55:13 GMT
So im making a Thagrosh 1 list and honestly im spit between an Armor Heavy (arm 20+) Oracles of Annihilation list, or a Blighted Ogrum list based in Primal Terrors
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Post by jojobrunnix on Jun 17, 2018 13:26:51 GMT
Ok.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on Jun 17, 2018 14:27:19 GMT
What sort of ideas do you have for the high arm list?
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Post by onijet01 on Jun 17, 2018 17:38:40 GMT
List A.
Thagrosh 1 Oracles of Annihilation. -Succubus (free) *Typhon *Carnivean *Carnivean *Nephlem Bloodseer *Nephlem Bloodseer *Nephlem Bloodseer *Nephlem Bloodseer *Naga Nightlurker
The Forsaken (free) The Forsaken (free) Blighted Nyss Shepherd Blighted Nyss Shepherd
Spawning Vessel (min unit)
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Thangrosh 1 Primal Terrors -Ammok the Truthbearer *Tyohon *Carnivean *Naga Nightlurker
Warmonger Chief
Chosen of Everblight (max) Blighted Ogrun Warmongers (max) *Gorag Rotteneye (free) Blighted Ogrun Warspears (max) *Warspear Chief (free)
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Post by snotling on Jun 17, 2018 20:04:09 GMT
Cut Bloodseers for thrones. And get a Blightbringer in the Ogrun list.
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Post by snotling on Jun 17, 2018 20:05:50 GMT
Cut Bloodseers for thrones. And get a Blightbringer in the Ogrun list. Pot can't score, so its pretty useless. Farrow Valks on the other hand are a godsend for almost all lists.
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Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jun 17, 2018 23:38:06 GMT
List A I don't see a lot of value in bloodseer spam for thagrosh1 honestly. It doesn't matter a whole lot that your opponent can't kill your stuff if you can't kill their stuff either. I'd swap at least 2 of them for another heavy or a throne. The remaining 2 can fill a role fundamentally similar to a screening unit without taking too much away from your lists killing power. Also I don't think the naga is necessary, since the sprays can get around cannot-target effects innately, so you can probably get by with just the mistspeaker. If you want to keep the spawning vessel, you could use the extra points to get a boiling pot to vastly improve the spawning vessel's output since you lack infantry to feed it. Otherwise, I don't think the pot works either since, as mentioned, you lack infantry to feed it, so you'd have to get that slow thing within very close range of ENEMY infantry in order for it to do anything useful. That doesn't seem too likely. List B Also gunna state the obvious: needs a blightbringer. You're running too much infantry-based armor and strength skew to NOT take a blightbringer. The naga is even less needed here as far as I can see. You have ammok for incorporeal, you don't have a lot of shooting power, and you're infantry heavy which is inefficient to hand out Wraithbane broadly enough to get a significant impact anyways. Unfortunately, while Thagrosh1 can run both infantry heavy and beast heavy well, we don't have many ways to do both. If PP fixed legionnaires, CoTD could be a great hybrid list for Thagrosh1, but lacking that you're generally stuck with one or the other. In my experience both are good, so I think it will come down to what you're pairing it with, and what you want it to do. edit: Something like this could be called a 'hybrid' of infantry and beast armor spam, I suppose. It only gets 1 free model, but you get the armor/str skew infantry supported by beasts with shooting who then themselves are also arm/str skew once the infantry line collapses. The whole list would have to basically roll as one tightly-clustered deathball straight down the middle of the table, though. conflictchamber.com/#ca201b_-0-aCkEkHkHb8csb8csLegion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Primal Terrors [Thagrosh 1] Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight [+28] - Blightbringer [32] - Carnivean [18] - Carnivean [18] Blighted Ogrun Warspears (max) [15] - Warspear Chieftan [0(5)] Blighted Ogrun Warspears (max) [15] - Warspear Chieftan [5]
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 18, 2018 12:46:03 GMT
Echoing Lanz; Bloodseer spam accomplishes very little. You don't even have good animi to spam with them (repulse, attractor, slipstream). I would drop all 4. Throne, if you have one is a good choice. If you're wanting to run the pot turn the bloodseers into Beast mistresses and shredders. Gives more bodies, ability to spread out more, solos to score flags, and more than a 9" threat range. (11.5" IS more than 9 on the carni but you're still running a pretty slow army for Legion). I'd also recommend Hex Hunters. Fog of War just makes it so easy to keep them stealthed and positioned better.
I REALLY want to argue that you aren't required to take a blightbringer just because you're running ogrun. But it's Thagrosh. It's just too flipping good. The value of all the stats handed out is just ridiculous. You're looking at +2Def/+2arm all the time vs shooting.
Now, if you do not own a Blighbringer, then yeah... that's a problem.
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