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Post by streetpizza on Apr 4, 2018 19:13:15 GMT
Sevy is the only one that seems weird to me. The others would have been jr's in about the same time period. Sevy would've already been more than middle aged when Caine was apprenticing.
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Post by Choco on Apr 4, 2018 19:27:08 GMT
Sevy is the only one that seems weird to me. The others would have been jr's in about the same time period. Sevy would've already been more than middle aged when Caine was apprenticing. I also find it weird that he has the same Focus stat as actual warcasters currently in the game (Gorten comes to mind). |
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Post by streetpizza on Apr 4, 2018 19:32:44 GMT
Gotta make that sweet sweet eye of menoth buff reach as far as possible though  |
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 4, 2018 19:34:46 GMT
They are strong, but none of them seem OP. If Sevy was 4-5 points he would be, but at 6 points he is just right I think. And him being able to be free really just makes up for protectorate themes having gotten the short end of the stick in terms of free points previously. The "junior" version of Sev is actually better than some full warcasters. Not even hyperbole. For six points, he's completely broken. |
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Post by gordo on Apr 4, 2018 20:17:46 GMT
Rules? I can't find them in the CiD forums
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Post by Choco on Apr 4, 2018 20:19:35 GMT
Rules? I can't find them in the CiD forums They are bundled in with the CG Week 5 update. Also, each of the faction forums has the full stats. |
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 4, 2018 20:19:36 GMT
Rules? I can't find them in the CiD forums They're tacked on to the end of the week 5 CG pdf. |
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Post by greytemplar on Apr 4, 2018 20:25:01 GMT
They are strong, but none of them seem OP. If Sevy was 4-5 points he would be, but at 6 points he is just right I think. And him being able to be free really just makes up for protectorate themes having gotten the short end of the stick in terms of free points previously. The "junior" version of Sev is actually better than some full warcasters. Not even hyperbole. For six points, he's completely broken. Yeah no. Thats total hyperbole. Eye of Menoth is good, but it doesn't make up for having a fairly meh spell list. Road to War is a good spell, but not when you only have 5 focus to run a battlegroup. For 13+ points he seems fair as is. |
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 4, 2018 20:40:17 GMT
The "junior" version of Sev is actually better than some full warcasters. Not even hyperbole. For six points, he's completely broken. Yeah no. Thats total hyperbole. Eye of Menoth is good, but it doesn't make up for having a fairly meh spell list. Road to War is a good spell, but not when you only have 5 focus to run a battlegroup. For 13+ points he seems fair as is. For 7 points, more like. Even if you run him at 13 points, so what? You put a jack on him that would be generally useful anyway. Eye means he doesn't need that much focus to power jacks. Not much you aren't hitting with a MAT 8 or RAT 6-7 plus aim. He's in no way fair. |
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Post by Azuresun on Apr 4, 2018 22:56:19 GMT
Well, it was nice when it was a new faction in CID. Now we're back to everyone putting on their faction colours, and the tedious chorus of "Their stuff is OP, all mine needs buffing NOW!"
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 4, 2018 22:58:45 GMT
Yeah no. Thats total hyperbole. Eye of Menoth is good, but it doesn't make up for having a fairly meh spell list. Road to War is a good spell, but not when you only have 5 focus to run a battlegroup. For 13+ points he seems fair as is. For 7 points, more like. Even if you run him at 13 points, so what? You put a jack on him that would be generally useful anyway. Eye means he doesn't need that much focus to power jacks. Not much you aren't hitting with a MAT 8 or RAT 6-7 plus aim. He's in no way fair. CaptainAmericaCivilWar.jpg |
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Post by tesoe on Apr 5, 2018 0:00:15 GMT
Well, it was nice when it was a new faction in CID. Now we're back to everyone putting on their faction colours, and the tedious chorus of "Their stuff is OP, all mine needs buffing NOW!" This probably means they nearly all the data they need on Crucible Guard and are getting close to closing the CID. Or these models are going to be released fairly soon and need testing now. |
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Post by Provengreil on Apr 5, 2018 1:25:29 GMT
I find it interesting on their choice of casters. Caine and Severius are not battlebox casters while Denny and Sorscha are. But all of them have been in the stories pretty heavily recently. I wonder how they came to these decisions. Probably by thinking about which ones had forms that most closely suggest the totality of the faction? If you asked me for the best* generalist in each faction, I think the only one where I'd choose someone other than what they did was Cryx, where I think Asphyxious 1 fits the bill best IMO. *not in terms of game strength or win rate, but in terms of who embodies the widest spread of elements of the faction. |
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 5, 2018 1:37:51 GMT
I find it interesting on their choice of casters. Caine and Severius are not battlebox casters while Denny and Sorscha are. But all of them have been in the stories pretty heavily recently. I wonder how they came to these decisions. Probably by thinking about which ones had forms that most closely suggest the totality of the faction? If you asked me for the best* generalist in each faction, I think the only one where I'd choose someone other than what they did was Cryx, where I think Asphyxious 1 fits the bill best IMO. *not in terms of game strength or win rate, but in terms of who embodies the widest spread of elements of the faction. Asphyxious 0 wouldn't even be a caster and would be a circle model. Thinking about it, Denegrha was kind of the only choice. Unlike Skarre, we know she had the gift before becoming a cryxian for a fact. The iron liches are a no because most of their power comes from their transformation. I still want Wrathe2 as a journeyman though. |
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 5, 2018 2:22:51 GMT
Asphyxious 0 wouldn't even be a caster and would be a circle model. Thinking about it, Denegrha was kind of the only choice. Unlike Skarre, we know she had the gift before becoming a cryxian for a fact. The iron liches are a no because most of their power comes from their transformation. I still want Wrathe2 as a journeyman though. It depends on how far back the 0 is going to go. Skarre is entirely a possibility, simply because there was a time when she was still learning and not a captain. Gaspy is the hard one. He is already a lich as the first, and unless you're going so far back as to when he was first converted, there should be no good way to do it. Who was the next non-lich Warcaster for Cryx?
For Mercs, it can be a real challenge, but I think Gorten would be the best option. Magnus0 would be Cygnaran, as he was already a full-fledged 'Caster when he and Stryker fought (wasn't he?). The Rhulics currently have no journeyman warcasters at all, and that is a hole that should be filled (though, having another journeyman would be nice, too). The only other real hole in Mercs is for Cephalyx, and they need a good battlebox 'caster more than they need a journeyman right now. |
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