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Post by warriorofiron on Apr 5, 2017 14:05:34 GMT
So I think after lots of self debating I've finally decided on what my pairing should be for future events, and I was just curious if I should stick with it or if I'm gonna run into problems or have too much overlap. Any advice or criticism hit me with it! Thanks for the help!
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Khador - B3 choice
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75 / 75 Army
Kommander Zoktavir, the Butcher Unleashed - WJ: +22
- War Argus
- Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan - PC: 4
- Ruin - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17)
- Devastator - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5)
- Kodiak - PC: 13
- Kodiak - PC: 13
Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 4
Kell Bailoch - PC: 5
Ogrun Bokur - PC: 5
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor - PC: 5
Ragman - PC: 4
Widowmaker Scouts - Leader & 3 Grunts: 8
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
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Khador - Vlad 2
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75 / 75 Army
Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion - WJ: +27
- Conquest - PC: 37 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4
Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 5
Saxon Orrik - PC: 4
Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Man-O-War Shocktroopers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer - PC: 4
Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Apr 5, 2017 14:47:18 GMT
Hi,
I would recommend trying out nyss hunters with Valachev in place of the rifle corps in your Vlad2 list. A little shooting is lost, but the melee abilities, speed and other stuff the nyss bring make up for it in my opinion.
Not too sure on the pairing as a whole I'm afraid, not played Butcher3 like that before. What factions do you see each list playing into?
Cheers,
Dave
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Post by warriorofiron on Apr 5, 2017 16:13:25 GMT
Hi, I would recommend trying out nyss hunters with Valachev in place of the rifle corps in your Vlad2 list. A little shooting is lost, but the melee abilities, speed and other stuff the nyss bring make up for it in my opinion. Not too sure on the pairing as a whole I'm afraid, not played Butcher3 like that before. What factions do you see each list playing into? Cheers, Dave Sounds like a good idea with the nyss, I just don't own them. Butcher 3 has always been my best caster in which I play with. For army drops I'd probably do B3 into cygnar, Khador, skorne, trolls and CoC And vlad 2 will be my menoth drop (unless I'm scared of an Amon drop then I'll risk putting in B3) legion, circle, Ret (depending on list pairing), minons. Mercs will depend heavily on the list pairing (as will any out of the blue pairings) my main thing is im unsure of my Cryx drop although I'm leaning heavily on making it vlad 2. |
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Post by smoothcriminal on Apr 5, 2017 16:14:50 GMT
That's pretty much the cookie-cutter pairing of competitive Khador.
Be vary of Menoth matchup. The B3 will have troubles with book/no push upkeep and V2 has no magic weapon dispenser or anti-magic tech.
Be vary of Cryx Ghost fleet and Coven matchups. They can threaten B3 with solid assassination runs and feedback whips while your Vlad's shooting can be shutdown by incorp, anti-blast and stealth.
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Post by warriorofiron on Apr 5, 2017 16:26:42 GMT
That's pretty much the cookie-cutter pairing of competitive Khador. Be vary of Menoth matchup. The B3 will have troubles with book/no push upkeep and V2 has no magic weapon dispenser or anti-magic tech. Be vary of Cryx Ghost fleet and Coven matchups. They can threaten B3 with solid assassination runs and feedback whips while your Vlad's shooting can be shutdown by incorp, anti-blast and stealth. That's what I was thinking but if I'm that worried I could take the objective that gives magical weapons in my vlad list. Sadly locally and a two-two and half hour bubble of tournament locations I haven't had too much experience against menoth or Cryx. |
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Post by cplmustard on Apr 5, 2017 16:41:19 GMT
I actually wouldn't advise swapping the wg for nyss, if valachev gets sniped out the nyss lose FF status and basically become useless for vlad, on the flipside if joe gets sniped out you lose a bit of accuracy (which HoF can cover for the most part) or tough/bears strength, which sucks, but can be played around. Plus you get access to rockets, under joe + feat + HoF a rocketeer can be rat 10 3d6 drop lowest, plus 4d6 drop lowest on damage, that will kill casters if you can keep a couple alive.
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Post by warriorofiron on Apr 6, 2017 1:34:58 GMT
I actually wouldn't advise swapping the wg for nyss, if valachev gets sniped out the nyss lose FF status and basically become useless for vlad, on the flipside if joe gets sniped out you lose a bit of accuracy (which HoF can cover for the most part) or tough/bears strength, which sucks, but can be played around. Plus you get access to rockets, under joe + feat + HoF a rocketeer can be rat 10 3d6 drop lowest, plus 4d6 drop lowest on damage, that will kill casters if you can keep a couple alive. Yea for the longest I time until reading the vlad 2 thread I didn't think about HoF on rifle corps, just a dumb overlooked it moment but I really like it! |
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