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Post by badnappy on Mar 4, 2018 4:45:25 GMT
So I wanted to share my joy in Baldur 1. I really like him as a caster and as my friend said to me he is a "solid" and dependable caster. Not an "A" game winning caster but a strong "B" lets be friends kind of guy. It has been B1 that I have been turning back to in Circla as my faith and motivation in the faction have taken a hit over the last year through loss after loss even with B1. I play mainly against Cygnar, Menoth, Legion and Khador with a trickle of Skorne and it has seemed to me that Circle have changed from what they were as a faction identity in Mk2 to something else in Mk3 and then again in themes. I have most of the casters and tried many with favourites arising from the stable yet always B1 has been securely waiting in the wings when not on the table. Even the games he has lost have been fun to play with him and I seldom feel that I am out of the action. With the changes to the Wrath and the addition of Bones, B1 just seemed to get better. Yet he is a caster that only seems to be mentioned on the edges of the community, " Oh you play B1, dont you think B2 would be better or he wont do as well as a Kruegar or Kromac". Yet in my heart B1 has a more interesting play style than B2 and more utility than other casters in the stable but not enough to shine in arm or attrition or scenario. A bit of a jack of all trades as he has a str buff, a def debuff, free charges , defensive feat( which I prefer to aggressive feats where I found the opponent either gets theirs off first or have some trick that stop my aggressive feat from performing optimally, yet my defensive feat is always good. Not going to destroy their army of anything but useful always.) can have movement buff with wayfarer and healing all round. Again none of these things he is best at but he covers alot of areas so a "B" all round. Faithful, dependable solid B1. I have tried assasination with him and had some near success which could have worked with better dice and sad failure where it was a snowball chance in hell but he still had a go( bounced completely off a Xerxis1 at dice minus 10 as he was loaded with feat and warded yarda yarda) but each time good old B1 was in there having a swing, making his presence known. Even now none of my mates are turning up and thinking holy hell I am up against B1 again its an auto lose. No B1 is not that guy but they are getting a game where they have to play, no auto win for you. And as someone with more knowledge than me said, " Stones are the new Circle" ( its ok puppies you shone for a long time and we all still love you but its time for your construct cousins to have a run and be respectable) so B1 is just getting more "B". Another feature is that he can play well in a number of themes, is good with solid ground in Devourers, not tried in Secret Masters and probably never will but I'm sure he would be a "B" there as well. So this brings me to his not being featured much in many you tube battle reports( he's hasn't been the new shiny on the block for a long time) so I was a little excited to recently find a report with B1 which I sat to watch bouyant that whoever was playing him I was fully backing. I must say sorry to whoever that guy was because He obviously was new to B1 if not the faction and I cursed him roundly as he fumbled my beloved B1 into an inglorious defeat leaving me feel totally bummed. In an effort to prop up B1 at least in my own mind I piloted him again against friends last night ( not the kind of friends that smile as they loose but the kind that don't want to share their beer after B1 has danced on their corpses) and soundly he justified why I like him so much. So to finish I hope others will smile at memories B1 has given them, never a bride, always a bridesmaid yet occasionally he reminds opponents, stay the f**k out of the forest.
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Post by Evola on Mar 11, 2018 18:20:48 GMT
Got any lists you play and find viable?
Im just getting my groove on Baldur style hehe
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Post by badnappy on Mar 12, 2018 3:23:38 GMT
I have found him best in Bones , no brainer, with wrath, megs and couple of wyrds. Season rest as usual with sentries, stones, wayfarer etc. He is also good for what he brings to the devourers theme though I find the ravagers dont hit armour as hard as I would like without stone skin but then they are slower, another problem but you can play around that if you are careful. The no knockdown ravagers are good for jam and rapid growth lets them treewalk from time to time. Not tried him in wild hunt or call of wild but think not so good there.
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Post by badnappy on Mar 12, 2018 3:23:53 GMT
I have found him best in Bones , no brainer, with wrath, megs and couple of wyrds. Season rest as usual with sentries, stones, wayfarer etc. He is also good for what he brings to the devourers theme though I find the ravagers dont hit armour as hard as I would like without stone skin but then they are slower, another problem but you can play around that if you are careful. The no knockdown ravagers are good for jam and rapid growth lets them treewalk from time to time. Not tried him in wild hunt or call of wild but think not so good there.
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Post by garou on Mar 12, 2018 22:26:19 GMT
Was interested in the topic but then i hit that wall of text...
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Post by streetpizza on Mar 13, 2018 15:24:43 GMT
Its as though a million enter keys screamed out in terror and then were suddenly silenced ...
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Post by badnappy on Mar 15, 2018 4:11:08 GMT
Read on the toilet, you've got the time
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Post by Evola on Mar 15, 2018 5:47:12 GMT
Read on the toilet, you've got the time Is there any other place for reading bro? đ
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Post by wolfchild on Mar 15, 2018 10:54:41 GMT
badnappy Baldur1 is designed just as u described him; a solid all-rounder, greater for starter players to have a good toolbox to get going. As such he doesnât really fit the tournament scene that WarmaHordes seems structured around. Bones of Orboros theme gave him a massive boost, but when players realised they could be more dynamic with others (like Krueger2) in a pairing that handles the obvious holes then he got dropped again. Circle often relies on janky moves rather than a straight up fight that youâd get from Khador. Baldur1 canât provide that. Heâs also suffered in popularity since Tanith came on board. From a different angle she provides a very good toolbox of abilities. Theyâre both great âBâ casters. Unfortunately because of that, theyâll both see lots of âfriendlyâ table time, but as most players that are serious delve into competitive play, then theyâre busy filming and practicing with our âAâ casters. The best thing about B casters tho is that theyâll always be a reliable fallback option, less impacted by fluctuations in meta. A casters (warlocks) however are inevitably buffeted by meta changes and so their own meta will shift, dropping in and out of popularity. Remember when all u ever saw was Wurmwood? Now itâs mostly Krueger2 and Una2, after a CID or two and SR2018 comes out itâll likely shift again.
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Post by rookiedruid on Mar 21, 2018 1:36:43 GMT
Ran Baulder 1 in my latest journeyman league with bones theme (eventually) Love the two wardens and guardian's hit power. Throw a wyrd in the mix - wowzers. Still has some bad matches but far more solid than Mk2
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Post by badnappy on Mar 21, 2018 1:44:41 GMT
badnappy Baldur1 is designed just as u described him; a solid all-rounder, greater for starter players to have a good toolbox to get going. As such he doesnât really fit the tournament scene that WarmaHordes seems structured around. Bones of Orboros theme gave him a massive boost, but when players realised they could be more dynamic with others (like Krueger2) in a pairing that handles the obvious holes then he got dropped again. Circle often relies on janky moves rather than a straight up fight that youâd get from Khador. Baldur1 canât provide that. Heâs also suffered in popularity since Tanith came on board. From a different angle she provides a very good toolbox of abilities. Theyâre both great âBâ casters. Unfortunately because of that, theyâll both see lots of âfriendlyâ table time, but as most players that are serious delve into competitive play, then theyâre busy filming and practicing with our âAâ casters. The best thing about B casters tho is that theyâll always be a reliable fallback option, less impacted by fluctuations in meta. A casters (warlocks) however are inevitably buffeted by meta changes and so their own meta will shift, dropping in and out of popularity. Remember when all u ever saw was Wurmwood? Now itâs mostly Krueger2 and Una2, after a CID or two and SR2018 comes out itâll likely shift again.
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Post by badnappy on Mar 21, 2018 1:46:43 GMT
Thanks I thinks you are right yet B1 will always have game even if I straight up fight goes against him but I liked your line of thinking. He is good for beginners, that's where I began.
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Post by wolfchild on Mar 21, 2018 10:46:35 GMT
Not just good for beginners, but just not likely to be the âon-metaâ champion we might like him to be. Those positions are more reserved for the warlocks/casters that benefit from the ripples of a meta. As PPâs CID cycles around, the meta is shifting faster than ever before and although a couple top level casters seem unmoving, their supporting cast keeps changing dramatically and as PP arenât afraid to drop a nerf bomb now n then, itâs likely those top casters will get nudged out in favour of others too. Warlocks like B1 are just under the surface, so u can ride out the storm and enjoy familiarity while other players empty their wallets n wrack their brains trying to stay on meta and constantly adapt. For anyone whoâs not getting regular frequent games B1 becomes ever more attractive as your go to. Let the super competitive tournament types flap around in the wind in whichever way it blows next.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Mar 23, 2018 12:58:16 GMT
In my mkii Circle days he was almost always one of my pair. (had a Kromac2/Morv2 flirtation for awhile). PBaldur was with me for the whole time, I kinda miss the guy. NO! I will NOT buy into another faction again! *runs*
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 23, 2018 13:13:01 GMT
I still use him a lot. He isn't exactly a very deep caster, and he plays a very straightforward version of circle that can get boring after a while, but he makes beasts hit like trains and has a really solid feat for cheating trades. Just beware of ghostly flight and incorp, because all 3 will make your feat literally meaningless.
Also, you really should try and edit your post to be a tad more organized for easier reading. I know some people were rude about it early in the thread, but they had a point, wall of text can be painful to read. To clarify, just space out your post, maybe ad a few bolded titles to differentiate sections. It should not take long.
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