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Post by sludgeogre on Feb 7, 2018 18:00:30 GMT
I feel like I'm at a crossroads right now.
I've played the game for about 8 months now. I picked Cygnar for their look and fluff mostly, but their rules seemed cool when I first looked into the game. I have enjoyed them quite a bit, but they are certainly a faction that requires finesse to play that I don't always have.
People have often said that I'm doing well in the game and will only get better since I'm focusing on one faction and tend to play a list a bunch of times before I set it aside and move on. They have also said that picking up a second faction, especially a Hordes one, has taught them a lot about how to play against Hordes with their primary faction, and has made them better overall as a player, even if you don't focus all of your play on one Warmachine faction for tournament play.
I found a screaming deal on a fully painted Skorne army that I really want to jump on, but it's a big cost that will also divert me away from Cygnar for a while. Is it beneficial to my progress as a player to tinker around in Hordes, or should I continue to focus on one faction and continually inch forward in my ability with them?
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Asmoridin
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Post by Asmoridin on Feb 7, 2018 18:05:49 GMT
Honestly, buying the second faction really helped make my play better when I was early on playing (back in MkI!), and I'd certainly recommend that at some point.
Have you been trying a bunch of different casters? I find that even switching up the casters to someone less popular or that you haven't used can improve your overall play too!
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Post by sludgeogre on Feb 7, 2018 18:21:50 GMT
Honestly, buying the second faction really helped make my play better when I was early on playing (back in MkI!), and I'd certainly recommend that at some point. Have you been trying a bunch of different casters? I find that even switching up the casters to someone less popular or that you haven't used can improve your overall play too! Thanks, it seems to be the consensus. I've played most of the casters. Only ones I haven't are Haley1, Caine2, Caine3, Sturgis1, Nemo1, Nemo2, and Sloan. I find that playing Haley3 for a while can make my brain hurt and then I go back to stuff like Stryker1 for a few games. |
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Post by Insanity Pilgrim on Feb 7, 2018 18:24:41 GMT
In my opinion as much as it seems cool to think from a different perpective, I personally would simply read about a faction when it suits me. The idea that eventually i'll have anough of my main faction to just pick anything is a much better feeling then saying I can pick an entirely new faction. When you branch off your always going to feel limited, since you dont have everything. Thats gonna happen far far less with a single faction. Just my 2 cents
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Feb 7, 2018 19:46:12 GMT
Branching out to another faction, especially one that is *so* different from what you are playing now (like Cygnar to Skorne) that it will dramatically change your mindset going into list building and playing the game. This is a huge benefit as it will open up new ideas and you will see your old/main faction in a new light and allow for deeper, more interesting game play.
Sometimes (as already mentioned) playing a different or less popular caster will change the game. Make you have to think outside the box from what you are so used to. Sometimes, you just need a break from your main faction from faction overload. Some people will build little theme armies from other factions without the intent of buying the entire faction, basically just a pet side project. Getting a change every once in a while is healthy for your gaming experience.
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Post by sludgeogre on Feb 7, 2018 20:34:56 GMT
In my opinion as much as it seems cool to think from a different perpective, I personally would simply read about a faction when it suits me. The idea that eventually i'll have anough of my main faction to just pick anything is a much better feeling then saying I can pick an entirely new faction. When you branch off your always going to feel limited, since you dont have everything. Thats gonna happen far far less with a single faction. Just my 2 cents . I own all of the good models in Cygnar and full FA of most of Storm Division so I can build any of the top lists. Also have everything in trenchers except second units of commandos and long gunners (which I would never run anyway, love running singles of them). The lot that I'm picking up is the entire skorne faction minus the catapult, one CA, and a second derp turtle, so I'll basically have everything I need for two factions, fully painted. |
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Post by sludgeogre on Feb 7, 2018 20:37:32 GMT
Branching out to another faction, especially one that is *so* different from what you are playing now (like Cygnar to Skorne) that it will dramatically change your mindset going into list building and playing the game. This is a huge benefit as it will open up new ideas and you will see your old/main faction in a new light and allow for deeper, more interesting game play. Sometimes (as already mentioned) playing a different or less popular caster will change the game. Make you have to think outside the box from what you are so used to. Sometimes, you just need a break from your main faction from faction overload. Some people will build little theme armies from other factions without the intent of buying the entire faction, basically just a pet side project. Getting a change every once in a while is healthy for your gaming experience. This is where my head has been at. I love how entirely different Skorne is from Cygnar. Slow and plodding beasts that get amped up by paingivers, a sweet flying heavy, derp turtles, and warrior models that shred faces and are cheap as hell. It's such a different way of thinking about the game I'm having a ton of fun looking at lists and trying to figure my way around how they might play. I'm pretty sure this is a good idea for my in terms of player growth. The only downside I can see is a slightly longer curve for Cygnar, but likely a higher skill ceiling with the tools I'll pick up from Skorne. I mean, I don't want to sound egotistical here, I'm an engineer and this is just how I think about this stuff. Just trying to maximize my growth. |
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Post by Xintas on Feb 8, 2018 14:42:58 GMT
ITT People justifying their splurge purchases as "growth opportunities". Shade coming from the guy who just bought a "pet project" second faction because "Skarre is really cool in the fluff".
I will admit that playing Journeyman warlocks helped me understand Hordes better, but I wouldn't recommend getting a second faction unless you WANT that faction. A good deal is always nice, but a second faction splits your attention, your wallet, and makes you think impossible thoughts like "A Makeda/Haley3 pairing...oooo".
If you want it though, and it fits into your hobby budget, go for it.
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Post by Gaston on Feb 8, 2018 14:59:40 GMT
I do one WM and one Hordes faction, but find I tend to play better when just focusing down on a single faction.
If you need to play to see a different perspective, swap armies with your buddy for a game or two.
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Post by darkshroud on Feb 8, 2018 15:45:06 GMT
I was playing cryx for the longest time. decided i need to switch up to something different.
i went hordes to get a different system under my belt as i felt the same system, warmachine, would have just been more of the same stuff i was doing with cryx. so i went circle.
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Post by darkshroud on Feb 8, 2018 15:46:23 GMT
ITT People justifying their splurge purchases as "growth opportunities". Shade coming from the guy who just bought a "pet project" second faction because "Skarre is really cool in the fluff". why are you so mad? |
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Post by Xintas on Feb 8, 2018 16:11:52 GMT
ITT People justifying their splurge purchases as "growth opportunities". Shade coming from the guy who just bought a "pet project" second faction because "Skarre is really cool in the fluff". why are you so mad? Not mad at all! I'm saying that I'm the guy throwing the shade; I'm guilty of exactly what I was making fun of! Skarre is really cool in the fluff, if you didn't know. |
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Post by W0lfBane on Feb 8, 2018 16:22:10 GMT
I own one faction. Literally the only one in my meta who hasn't dabbled with multiple faction. Stay strong single faction sibling. Stay strong.
But a deal for the entirety of scorne is hard to pass up.
P.S: I'm not even going to consider swapping factions till I get everything assembled and painted
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Post by darkshroud on Feb 8, 2018 16:26:01 GMT
Not mad at all! I'm saying that I'm the guy throwing the shade; I'm guilty of exactly what I was making fun of! Skarre is really cool in the fluff, if you didn't know. My apologies. i misunderstood what you were saying. |
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 8, 2018 16:28:32 GMT
If you're not worried about being the best there ever was (dun dun da-daaa) I would say buy whatever you think is fun. You're not really giving away Cygnar, so you can always go back and play it whenever you like.
But, if you are trying to get those top tier tournament level skillz. I would say stay with a single faction.
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