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Post by gobber on Sept 29, 2017 16:26:31 GMT
Enjoy the advance moving heavies while they last :/
Shae & Gastonne's Mariners: Mariners advance move to 12" line. Dougal minifeats. Gastonne allocates 2, spends 2 to fire group. Shae feats and puts up coup de main. Mariners featmove to 15" line. Mariners advance 7" to 22" line
Shooting: Shae's mariners shoot 17" to 39" line (1" into deployment) Gastonne's mariners shoot 19" to 41" line (3" into deployment)
Ossrum and pMags can also pull this off on a single gastonne mariner shooting 2" into deployment
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Sept 29, 2017 17:53:56 GMT
I told them this on facebook when it was announced
Until people start getting blasted top of one I don't think they are going to do anything
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Post by gobber on Sept 29, 2017 17:59:17 GMT
They locked down on will work for food right quick though...
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 29, 2017 18:25:04 GMT
It's a better cute than good interaction. Mariners can be shield guarded but assault sprays in WWFF could not. 2 fully boosted shots will not assassinate anyone sitting on a full camp unless you roll crazy high. I mean on Kreoss1 ( low stat caster) if you hit 2 shots and roll 6-6-6 for dmg and he does -5 on each you kill him to the box.
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Post by gobber on Sept 29, 2017 18:27:20 GMT
Shae's own mariners can shoot 1" into deployment so I believe the cap is 5 double boosted shots. Well aware it's not good but its existence is apparently enough that we'll lose advance move because of it.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 29, 2017 18:34:39 GMT
Again. They can be shield guarded. The sprays in minions could not be and they didnt need LOS of the castet. Have funn bringing a 6 mariner jank list and your oponent just stands behind 2 heavies and your plan goes to shit.
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Post by gobber on Sept 29, 2017 18:57:15 GMT
You can't fit six and get the advance moves. Nor does the list look that weird with 5? Again, whether or not it's good isn't really relevant to PP's decision making. They simply don't want it to exist.
Shae, 3x mariner Gastonne, 2x mariner 2x eliminators commodore cannon aiyana & holt min press gang Savio, gorman, dougal
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Post by mikethefish on Sept 30, 2017 11:22:39 GMT
There is now way this is powerful enough to deserve a nerf
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 30, 2017 11:25:04 GMT
You can't fit six and get the advance moves. Nor does the list look that weird with 5? Again, whether or not it's good isn't really relevant to PP's decision making. They simply don't want it to exist. Shae, 3x mariner Gastonne, 2x mariner 2x eliminators commodore cannon aiyana & holt min press gang Savio, gorman, dougal Have fun with that... i can see it working 0 percent of the time.
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Post by pattison on Sept 30, 2017 14:07:07 GMT
My opinion is that we shouldn't be shooting into each others deploy zone in any circumstances. Nothing screams negative play experience like losing models while you didn't even have a turn.
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Post by custardboy on Oct 1, 2017 16:16:20 GMT
Whether its good isn't relevant. No caster in the game dies on average to 4 assaulting road hogs either, never mind the lines of movement they have to take (23" without pathfinder) and almost automatically losing the game after. They just don't want it regardless. Of course they may just overlook it because NO ONE will do that.
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Post by josephkerr on Oct 1, 2017 23:55:42 GMT
Yeah I can see them changing advance move over this. PP hates deployment line assassination runs. Was fun while it lasted.
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Post by thimnwitt on Oct 2, 2017 3:21:04 GMT
I really hope they don't remove advance move. I really like that benefit. Perhaps just change double powder rations to be extra damage instead of +2".
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Post by Koku on Oct 2, 2017 10:37:27 GMT
Shae Reinholt FREE X3 Mariner Gastone X2 Mariner Herne & Jonne X2 Eliminators Sea dog deck gun Dougal FREE P Eiryss FREE Anastasia
Leaves you 1 point under, double artillerist, and +1 to go first. If you wait a turn, PEiryss might even be able to assist.
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Post by Koku on Oct 2, 2017 10:38:28 GMT
Shae Reinholt FREE X3 Mariner Gastone X2 Mariner Herne & Jonne X2 Eliminators Sea dog deck gun Dougal FREE P Eiryss FREE Anastasia Leaves you 1 point under, double artillerist, and +1 to go first. If you wait a turn, PEiryss might even be able to assist. And commodore.
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