Is this OK against Cygnar?

khadorjack
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Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 21, 2017 14:09:59 GMT

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Post by khadorjack on Mar 21, 2017 14:09:59 GMT

Hi guys!

I have a probelm: my pairing (and now i'm pretty convinced about that) is Irusk2 (theme)/Butch3r.
I have tried the Irusk2 list against a lot of bad matchups and it was pretty nice in any case, only i know that probabily Cygnar is the worst of them all. The real problem is that i never faced a Cygnar player in my WMH player's life.
So i really don't know if my B3 pairing would be ok against the typical Cygnar drop. Can i ask you some tips?

Butch3r
doom puppies
maddy the ordic girl
Ruin
Devastator

full MoWST boat
widomakers
min mechs

kell
marksman
Orin
2xbokurs
Tinker

I drop my previous Butch3r list with 4 jacks (Ruin, Dev and 2 kodiaks) for the MoW boat looking at the probabily new steamroller rules.
WIth maddy and the 2 bokurs the butcher is very well protected and the snipercorps can deal a massive amount of damage to anyone out there. Orin because yes.
The mechs stay with the MoWs, the tinker follow the jacks (ruin in particular).

Can this be ok against cygnar? I have ruin for unkeep removal and long threat range, devastator and MoWs for holding zones, the rest more or less supports the butch3r. The MoWs are a great electroleap denial, because if i hide Orin and co behind them in shiledwall, there's no way a lightening can catch them. Am i right?

Waiting for your tips! Thanks!

wendan Junior Strategist Posts: 785	Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 21, 2017 18:24:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by wendan on Mar 21, 2017 18:24:37 GMT It looks pretty good to me, frankly.
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Netherby
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Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 22, 2017 7:35:54 GMT

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Post by Netherby on Mar 22, 2017 7:35:54 GMT

I personally wouldn't bother with Maddy any more. If you are looking to drop this specifically into Cygnar and Stormlancers I would swap her for the Koldun Lord. Stick him behind the MOWs and shut down their assault shots completely.

Also check the Client rule on the Bokurs, they may both have to have a different client?

Last Edit: Mar 22, 2017 7:36:36 GMT by Netherby

khadorjack
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Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 22, 2017 7:56:59 GMT

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Post by khadorjack on Mar 22, 2017 7:56:59 GMT

Mar 22, 2017 7:35:54 GMT Netherby said:

I personally wouldn't bother with Maddy any more. If you are looking to drop this specifically into Cygnar and Stormlancers I would swap her for the Koldun Lord. Stick him behind the MOWs and shut down their assault shots completely.

Also check the Client rule on the Bokurs, they may both have to have a different client?

They have. But the client's rule is referred only to the +2 bonus to attack and dmg, they can shieldguard every model they want, even if it's not the client.

Well, i found maddy really helpfull in a lot of situation, like against RET and it's coursed mage hunter assassins (can't touch me, uh-uh), and i think she's a counter to a lot of lists out there (take vlad2 or similar, for example)

smoothcriminal
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Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 22, 2017 9:08:02 GMT

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Post by smoothcriminal on Mar 22, 2017 9:08:02 GMT

I feel like mow boat should just be jacks. Sure, you can take them if you want and they would work, but jacks would be better, B3 doesn't buff mows enough for them to be better choice than jacks.

As far as SR 2017 is concerned, do we have a full text already? Because if the scoring of infantry zones is similar to 2016 then you can just bully the zones with Butcher and score with solos without needing a dedicated scoring unit.

Last Edit: Mar 22, 2017 9:10:06 GMT by smoothcriminal

khadorjack
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Is this OK against Cygnar? Mar 22, 2017 11:02:25 GMT

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Post by khadorjack on Mar 22, 2017 11:02:25 GMT

Mar 22, 2017 9:08:02 GMT smoothcriminal said:

I feel like mow boat should just be jacks. Sure, you can take them if you want and they would work, but jacks would be better, B3 doesn't buff mows enough for them to be better choice than jacks.

As far as SR 2017 is concerned, do we have a full text already? Because if the scoring of infantry zones is similar to 2016 then you can just bully the zones with Butcher and score with solos without needing a dedicated scoring unit.

They were (2 kodiaks), but i think i have to try them. I think also they are a batter answer to electroleaps than a warjack, being in shieldwall means the leaps will scatter from a MoW to the other without killing Orin or maddy.

Is this OK against Cygnar?

Post by khadorjack on Mar 21, 2017 14:09:59 GMT

Post by wendan on Mar 21, 2017 18:24:37 GMT

Post by Netherby on Mar 22, 2017 7:35:54 GMT

Post by khadorjack on Mar 22, 2017 7:56:59 GMT

Post by smoothcriminal on Mar 22, 2017 9:08:02 GMT

Post by khadorjack on Mar 22, 2017 11:02:25 GMT