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Post by zerfius on Mar 20, 2017 15:46:36 GMT
Hi All,
I am currently running a pIrusk list with Behemoth and Juggernaut. I am looking to build a Karchev list and also a Butcher list and wanted to see what additional jacks I need to pick up to make it we rounded. Here is what I have:
Ruin
Behemoth
Torch
Black Ivan
Juggernaut x3
Devastator
Spriggan
Thanks for the help!
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Mar 20, 2017 16:37:40 GMT
I'm not sure if I understand you correct - you want to plan some purchases?
I think that from competitive POV you need 5 Jugg chassis (magnetized), 3 Kodiaks and 2 Devastators as a base.
Myself I decided for a more resonable "collectors choice" 3 Jugs and 2 Kodiaks
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Post by AdeptusB on Mar 20, 2017 16:44:47 GMT
We don't have too many 'bad' choices for 'jacks, outside of the Breserker chassis (the Mad Dog was nerfed too hard, and the other two are a bit too expensive). I notice you don't have a Kodiak; they don't deal damage like a Juggy, but the combo of Pathfinder & Heavy Boiler is often useful. The Marauder is great for its points, but I only take one when I need one more 'jack and that's all I can afford. The recent price adjustment has made Destroyers viable; I'm looking forward to finally getting some use out of my old battlebox model.
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Post by welshhoppo on Mar 20, 2017 17:15:31 GMT
If you are good with magnets, pick up 3 Kodiaks/Grolars and 2 sets of clams. You'll be mostly set then.
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Post by zerfius on Mar 20, 2017 17:19:56 GMT
I'm not sure if I understand you correct - you want to plan some purchases? I think that from competitive POV you need 5 Jugg chassis (magnetized), 3 Kodiaks and 2 Devastators as a base. Myself I decided for a more resonable "collectors choice" 3 Jugs and 2 Kodiaks Sorry I was not totally clear. Yes, I am looking to buy some more. I really want to make a Karchev list, but I do not think I have enough jacks of the right mix to get a quality list going. It also seems like Butcher lists are better with a few jacks. |
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Post by khadorjack on Mar 20, 2017 18:49:11 GMT
Karchev goes well with marauders, juggernauts, kodiaks and devastators. Cheap and effective.
Also butch3r likes Ruin, kodiaks, devastators. Than juggernauts and marauders are always welcomed if you want to go jack heavy.
Behemoth is situational, IMO. Strong, but costs a lot of point. However is very nice with Irusk1, and you can try it also with Karchev (very good RTW trigger) and Butch3r (less effective but still another important piece to deal with for your opponent)
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Post by khador247 on Mar 20, 2017 19:33:22 GMT
I think this is the time of the baseline jacks...Juggy, Marauder, Kodiak and Devastator. The most expensive of those is only 14 pts. Those 4 of those jacks provide great return for their points. I'd say right now the Devastator probably trails the other three a bit right now but that may change with the new SR. People will be compelled to take more troops since certain zones can only be scored by them. Troops struggle to deal with Devastator's armor and it can wipe them out with ROD. Ruin is still nice with the Butchers and isn't too ruinous (ha ha) as far as points. Beast 09 used to be my favorite jack but is clearly overpriced now. Behemoth is a VERY strong jack for rules but is also VERY pricey. In most lists I'd say he's not worth it but if you're using someone like Butcher1 or Sorscha1 I think he has to get strong consideration.
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Mar 21, 2017 8:57:35 GMT
Sorry I was not totally clear. Yes, I am looking to buy some more. I really want to make a Karchev list, but I do not think I have enough jacks of the right mix to get a quality list going. It also seems like Butcher lists are better with a few jacks. I played my Butcher with 5 jacks quite succesfully. I've now pushed the number to 6 to have better chances with Cygnar. For Karchev I envision 7-9 Jacks + some snipers. Juggies and Kodiaks are the choice for him. And an occasional Devastator will top it up nicely. |
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Post by jonnyboy on Mar 21, 2017 12:52:45 GMT
We don't have too many 'bad' choices for 'jacks, outside of the Breserker chassis (the Mad Dog was nerfed too hard, and the other two are a bit too expensive). I notice you don't have a Kodiak; they don't deal damage like a Juggy, but the combo of Pathfinder & Heavy Boiler is often useful. The Marauder is great for its points, but I only take one when I need one more 'jack and that's all I can afford. The recent price adjustment has made Destroyers viable; I'm looking forward to finally getting some use out of my old battlebox model. I don't mean to derail the thread, but what is this recent price adjustment concerning the destroyer? My warroom still says the same price as always. |
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Post by welshhoppo on Mar 21, 2017 12:58:09 GMT
Big D's used to be 16 points. Now they are 14.
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Mar 21, 2017 13:17:50 GMT
Really, it's whatever jack you want! It depends on what you want to do.
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Post by MrHaystacks on Mar 21, 2017 16:45:31 GMT
It all depends on what kind of lists float your boat.
My list of jacks to have at the end is
4 Magnetized Juggernaut Chassis inc Torch and Black Ivan
2 Kodiak/Grolar
2 Clam
Ruin and Big B,
With that you can run a pretty nasty Jack spam list. And I think Magnetizing jacks, now more than ever, is more important.
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Post by Netherby on Mar 22, 2017 7:47:50 GMT
The only thing you're really missing are Kodiaks, get two of them. Magnetise if you want.
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Post by KingoftheNorth on Mar 22, 2017 23:19:46 GMT
I'll jump on the same train as everyone else more or less...pick up at least a few of the "standard" Jack kits (Jugg/Destroyer/Marauder) and magnetize it. The versatility of those jacks is amazing and they fit into so many different lists in various quantities that its a must own item. Probably 3+.
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