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Post by jesusjohn on Mar 14, 2017 23:11:35 GMT
Right i'm playing in a journeyman league and slowly building towards the 50pt mark.
how does this lot look?
Battlegroup: Koslov Decimator Juggernaut Marauder
Man O War shock troopers full unit and officer
Man O War Kovnick marshaling a Devastator
49pts
Down the line towards 75 points looking to add Widowmakers and a Man o war Drakhun. Possibly some eliminators.
It would probably work better with Ulhan, winterguard and pikemen, but the mini's make my soul die a little everytime i look at them.
What i think i'm mainly missing is aoe for infantry jam,
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Mar 14, 2017 23:13:21 GMT
Man, that looks pretty good to me. I'd play that list. I doubt I'd even switch casters at the end.
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Post by jesusjohn on Mar 14, 2017 23:39:33 GMT
Yeah i like Koslov, just for the movement he gives. He seems like a good support caster who has so far done me proud on a few assassination runs and can comfortably panel beat a light jack if it ends up out of position. Obviously not going to rely on him killing light jacks to much once the points go up. I'm also tempted to just run a lot of man o war instead of the widow makers in prep for a man o war theme list. Mainly because i love the look of them. Although the gun o wars and hammer o wars look a little lack luster with him.
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Post by wendan on Mar 14, 2017 23:50:00 GMT
Yeah, I've been running him with tons of jacks and man o war, though he's an iron fang in fluff so I want to try him with that.
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Post by borderprince on Mar 15, 2017 5:03:09 GMT
Looks like a fun list. I'm not convinced about the Devastator on the Kovnik. Jack marshalling isn't that good in this edition - do you really benefit by not having the jack on Kozlov? The only reason I can see is to have him out of control. The Devastator will work as a zone-holde like thatr, but in a Kozlov list, so will almost any other jack and the Men of War.
I'd think about the Widowmakers you mention: Widowmakers + Marksman + War Dog/min Mechaniks is 15 points on the nose, and gives you a little ranged presence to deal with annoying solos, charge blockers and the like. The WM also work nicely with Tactical Supremacy (which stacks with the Marksman's Swift Hunter). Mechaniks are great with Kozlov, as almost everything in the list is repairable, and the feat means much of it survives to benefit from repair.
If you're worried about an independent zone-holder at the 50 point level, consider the Drakhun you mention (maybe replace Devastator with Drakhun + War Dog + min Mechaniks). It's fast enough to get to a zone early and very tough, even without Kozlov's feat. Essentially light-jack levels of ARM + boxes (but perhaps more survivable due to how the dismount rule works). There are some shenanigans you can pull using the placement of the dismounted version to sometimes stay alive a little longer. Also a really great model.
You're right about the infantry jam. Might be less of an issue in a journeyman league formet, simply as large units are more time consuming to prepare. It's generally something I find Kozlov doesn't handle that well, at least how I build him.
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Post by jesusjohn on Mar 15, 2017 23:37:03 GMT
Yeah the devastator just has nice synergy with the man o wars with its bulldozing and because its either slaming of launching its aoe around it its not really focus heavy so just needs pointing at stuff to either move it out of the way or try and catch multiple base contact and go full on smart bomb.
Mechs are deffinatly a thing and i think a pair of flanking Drakhun will give the threat range i need to nail solos etc, especaily if they start in koslovs cmd as i usually have the pathfinder for everybody spell up.
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Post by Cryptix on Mar 16, 2017 1:11:02 GMT
Honestly, i'd take a unit of MOW Demo Corps + Kovnik, MOW Shocktroopers+UA+Kovnik, two units of Max Mechanics, and something for 5 points, but that's expensive $$$wise.
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Post by borderprince on Mar 16, 2017 10:51:25 GMT
i think a pair of flanking Drakhun will give the threat range i need to nail solos etc, especaily if they start in koslovs cmd as i usually have the pathfinder for everybody spell up. Careful, Chosen Ground is battlegroup only. Men of War are the Khadoran alternative to light warjacks, but definitely not part of the battlegroup. So no pathfinder for the Drakhun.
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Post by jesusjohn on Mar 16, 2017 23:31:26 GMT
fair. plus i'd have to do a lot of conversion work to get the second Drakhun looking different.
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Post by enimaz on Mar 17, 2017 1:04:27 GMT
If you want a second flanker but don't want a second drakuhn you could always go with Fenris.
I know he doesn't get a lot of love but with a 15" threat range under feat, pathfinder and reposition he can be pretty scary.
I've caught several people off guard tossing their jack into their caster and charging from left field with Fenris. With a mat 8 you sometimes don't even need to knock them down.
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Post by wiking on Mar 25, 2017 15:32:42 GMT
jesusjohn just reposition the head and an arm so you can tell them apart and paint a 1 and 2 on the rear of the bases that should not be too hard
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