Post by Deller on Sept 23, 2017 2:07:39 GMT
The way to prevent spam themes is to balance models pointswise & to not have hyper restrictive themes.
Ghost Fleet is always going to be Revenant Crew Spam, because there's literally nothing else you can play in the theme. Limiting the free models to 2 won't change Ghost Fleet lists, because Cryx jacks are still terrible and there's no reason to take them here.
Legion is always going to spam its flying beasts because the land sharks are overcosted, & its magic units are mediocre. Even if you limit free points to 2 models only you'll see the same amount of Hex Hunters. The problem is the fact Hex Hunters aren't great.
I see Battle Mages & Arcanist Units in Forages all the time.
I actively see Khador themes not take all their free points all the time in Infantry & Jack themes in order to diversify. Turns out when you have good jacks & good units in a theme you're willing to take both even if it means not taking all your free points.
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Are all WTC list pairs in Khador that don't use all their free points in each list in order to play a more balanced list. If you want to see other factions doing this they're going to need good Warjacks, Beasts, & Battle Engines in their infantry lists, and good infantry in their Warjack lists. Yes Black Industries, Heavy Metal, & Oracles are going to be Beast/Jack spam, because what else are they going to do. The unit options in those themes blow. if you want them to be more balanced give them unit options that are actually good. Put Satyxis Raiders or Carrion Thralls in Black Industries or Swordmen in Oracles. If you want Jacks & Beasts in infantry themes give factions jacks & beasts worth taking.
Ghost Fleet is always going to be Revenant Crew Spam, because there's literally nothing else you can play in the theme. Limiting the free models to 2 won't change Ghost Fleet lists, because Cryx jacks are still terrible and there's no reason to take them here.
Legion is always going to spam its flying beasts because the land sharks are overcosted, & its magic units are mediocre. Even if you limit free points to 2 models only you'll see the same amount of Hex Hunters. The problem is the fact Hex Hunters aren't great.
I see Battle Mages & Arcanist Units in Forages all the time.
I actively see Khador themes not take all their free points all the time in Infantry & Jack themes in order to diversify. Turns out when you have good jacks & good units in a theme you're willing to take both even if it means not taking all your free points.
conflictchamber.com/#c3501b_-0xdI0d7teQ8fhF7phF8r8A8B8G8G8e__bW7weQ8f3WhFe30dd18G8G
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Are all WTC list pairs in Khador that don't use all their free points in each list in order to play a more balanced list. If you want to see other factions doing this they're going to need good Warjacks, Beasts, & Battle Engines in their infantry lists, and good infantry in their Warjack lists. Yes Black Industries, Heavy Metal, & Oracles are going to be Beast/Jack spam, because what else are they going to do. The unit options in those themes blow. if you want them to be more balanced give them unit options that are actually good. Put Satyxis Raiders or Carrion Thralls in Black Industries or Swordmen in Oracles. If you want Jacks & Beasts in infantry themes give factions jacks & beasts worth taking.