Lahn
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Post by Lahn on Sept 1, 2017 15:55:26 GMT
Might get a chance to rock some Winions for a change this weekend, what Will Work for Food lists are people rocking or planning to at present?
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Post by babadook on Sept 1, 2017 17:26:15 GMT
I am really looking forward to playing her into Cryx as I feel she should have a better game into the Dark Host Bane Riders theme list, while she should still do good enough into GF, that nobody will drop it.
[Theme] Will Work for Food (CID)
(Jaga-Jaga 1) Jaga-Jaga, the Death Charmer [+29]
- Blackhide Wrastler [16]
- Ironback Spitter [15]
- Ironback Spitter [15]
Bog Trog Mist Speaker [0(4)]
Bog Trog Mist Speaker [0(4)]
Dahlia Hallyr [17]
Gobber Tinker [2]
Gremlin Swarm [3]
Cylena Raefyll & Nyss Hunters (max) [19]
Sacral Vault [17]
I usually play Rask in a competitive environment, when I am looking for success, but this list is very close to make me re-think that statement. Solid ranged game, 4 heavies for Melee ARM cracking deluxe and an non-linear assassination from as far as 25" away looks damn good... Good enough to replace Rask and the Insane Gator Posse? I doubt, but it is definitely worth a try.
[Theme] Will Work for Food (CID)
(Arkadius 1) Dr. Arkadius [+32]
- Gun Boar [9]
- Gun Boar [9]
- Gun Boar [9]
- Road Hog [16]
- Road Hog [16]
- Splatter Boar [8]
- War Hog [15]
- Targ [0(4)]
Gremlin Swarm [0(3)]
Gremlin Swarm [0(3)]
Hutchuck, Ogrun Bounty Hunter [0(6)]
Rorsh [15]
- Battle Boar [7]
Swamp Gobber Chef [1]
Swamp Gobbers Bellows Crew [2]
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Post by Azahul on Sept 1, 2017 22:50:46 GMT
I've converted my Arkadius and Carver lists into the theme. They come out looking like this:
Doctor Arkadius -War Hog -War Hog -Road Hog -Road Hog -Gun Boar -Gun Boar -Splatter Boar -Gorax -Gorax -Targ Gobber Chef Hutchuck (free) Ogrun Bokur (free) Ogrun Bokur (free) Orin Midwinter (free)
Lord Carver -Battle Boar -Battle Boar -Battle Boar -Battle Boar -Splatter Boar -Splatter Boar -Splatter Boar -Splatter Boar -War Hog -War Hog Feralgeist Gobber Chef Maximus Gremlin Swarm Gremlin Swarm Lanyssa (free) Orin Midwinter (free) Hutchuck (Free)
In the Carver list I'm considering trading Hutchuck for a Mist Speaker so I can deal with Wraith Engines more easily.
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Sept 1, 2017 23:11:12 GMT
Why Gorax instead of Battle Boar?
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Post by Azahul on Sept 1, 2017 23:12:09 GMT
Why Gorax instead of Battle Boar? The Gorax is better.
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Sept 1, 2017 23:20:18 GMT
Why Gorax instead of Battle Boar? The Gorax is better. How so? Aren't they the same thing except that the battle boar has +1ARM, -1STR and berserk?
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Post by Azahul on Sept 1, 2017 23:26:07 GMT
How so? Aren't they the same thing except that the battle boar has +1ARM, -1STR and berserk? I swear I answer this question every time I post an Arkadius list I drop Arkadius as my armour cracker, Carver as my anti-infantry list. My Primal Bots consequently are more likely to need to crack armour than kill infantry. The Gorax doesn't just have the +1 strength, they also have the free charge. That massively increases their damage output. In a late game scenario where I need to down an Arm 19 heavy using all of Arkadius's tricks, the Gorax averages a cool 33-34 damage. The Battle Boar under those same circumstances averages 23-24. That's a pretty vast gulf in hitting power, and a lot more useful in the match-ups Arkadius plays than Berserk.
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Post by custardboy on Sept 2, 2017 1:15:23 GMT
Maybe we should just have a sticky called 'Why the gorax is better than the battle boar.' Carver War hog War hog War hog War hog Gun boar Gun boar Splatter boar Battle boar Battle boar Gremlin Swarm Alten Ashley Efaarit scout Efaarit scout 3 SG River raiders Midas Splatter boar Splatter boar Gun boar Gun boar Gun boar Gun boar Max Nyss hunters Min Bone grinders Min Bone grinders Valkyries Valkyries 3 SG River raiders Targ Efaarit scout Efaarit scout Dr Arkadius Road hog Road hog Road hog War hog War hog Gorax Gorax Rorsh+Brine 3 SG River raiders Efaarit scout Efaarit scout Alten Ashley Helga- I haven't come up with one I'm 100% happy with, she's still in an odd spot. Still needs a budget beater and a better feat. Splatter boar Splatter boar Battle boar 2 Razor boars 2 Razor boars Max Nyss hunters Valkyries Valkyries Brun & Lug 3 SG River raiders 3 SG River raiders 3 SG River raiders Lanyssa Orin Totem hunter Sturm and Drang- why would you?
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Post by gobber on Sept 2, 2017 6:58:55 GMT
Once in a blue moon the battle boar will live the dream and pacman a bunch of infantry (my best is 9 dawnguard sentinels) but the choice is even clearer now that goraxes can overtake about in WWFF.
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Post by themhor on Sept 2, 2017 9:22:17 GMT
So, with one minor tweak (Gobber chef to bellows crew) I put my Arcadius thornfall list into WWfF, and get to add an extra Warhog and Eefarit scout
Dr. Arkadius - WB: +32 - Targ - PC: Free - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2) - War Hog - PC: 15 - Splatter Boar - PC:8 - Gun Boar - PC: 9 - Gun Boar - PC: 9 - Battle Boar - PC: 7 - Battle Boar - PC: 7
Alten Ashley - PC: Free Efaarit Scouts - PC: Free Efaarit Scouts - PC: Free
Farrow Bone Grinders - Leader & 3 Grunts: 5 Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew Leader and Grunt- 2
Played into Circle Baldur2, bottom of one I ran my eefarits to strategic locations, feated to get my advanced move Warhogs up the field (sorry eefarits!), and charged two primalled Warhogs, one with Forced Evo into his Woldwrath, leaving it on 10 boxes. If it didn't have roots of the earth on it it'd have died. Seems pretty good...
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Post by Tenzilla on Sept 2, 2017 15:09:17 GMT
Why no road hogs? Extra threat and zomg sprays...
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Post by themhor on Sept 7, 2017 20:36:02 GMT
Sadly my Minion collection has been put together from the little I had and three second hand lots (one from eBay and the other two from friends reducing their faction numbers), so I have 5 Warhogs and no Roadhogs... Otherwise the Gobbers go back to a chef and roadhog (or no chef and 2...).
This theme might finally enable me to try my crazy 5 Warhog theories...
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