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Post by zerfius on Jun 8, 2017 12:42:44 GMT
Hey All,
As I have mentioned (several times) I am new. But my gaming club is having a tournament this weekend and I have decided to enter. It is cheap and gives me an excuse to play games all day on Sunday! The list that I have mostly been using has been an Irusk1, infantry heavy list. The advice I got from the former Press Ganger at the club is that it is a good list, but very nuanced and if I don't play it just right, I will fail. Also, because of all of the moving parts and the fact that I do not know the game well yet, my turns run very long which is not good on a deathclock.
So, with that said, I really like the Jaws theme (most because I enjoy Big B) and I have picked up a few new models recently. I will be playing tonight to test it out and get a feel for it ahead of the tournament. Here is what I have come up with now and I would like to hear your thoughts on the list:
B3/Jaws (75/75)
Butcher 3
-War Argus
-Behemoth
-Ruin
-Decimator
-Juggernaut
-Marauder
-Destroyer
Manhunter (Free)
Widowmaker Marksman (Free)
Battle Mechaniks (Min)
-Battle Mechanik Office (Free)
I have thought about keeping B1 over B3, but I just got B3 and am interested in trying him out. I have also thought about getting a second Manhunter in this list either by taking out the MM or BM Officer.
Thanks for your suggestions!
-Z
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Jun 8, 2017 12:51:34 GMT
I would leave the list the way it is. Just remember theme bonus of your opponent looses AD and your mechs get repo 3. Just make sure to have fun!
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Jun 8, 2017 14:39:34 GMT
Do you have a war dog? This little boy will help you a lot as Butcher has to play offensive and given your inexperience - it is likely something can get to your caster. But that additional +2 def helps imensely!
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Post by zerfius on Jun 8, 2017 15:09:37 GMT
Do you have a war dog? This little boy will help you a lot as Butcher has to play offensive and given your inexperience - it is likely something can get to your caster. But that additional +2 def helps imensely! I do have a war dog, but would it be worth dropping one of my solo's for? Shouldn't the War Argus' provide enough support to keep things from charging at B3 at least? -Z |
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Post by lordnorton on Jun 8, 2017 18:48:36 GMT
Yes, the argus can get in the way but the WarDog helps him with the def bonus in case they do make it to him.
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Post by Netherby on Jun 9, 2017 1:28:33 GMT
Drop the Mek Officer for a War Dog IMO.
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Post by zerfius on Jun 9, 2017 12:21:17 GMT
Ok, I played this list last night with the only change being I dropped the Mek Officer for a second Manuhunter. I technically won on assassination, but my opponent did give me some pointers on the last two rounds to help me get into position to do the the thing. I am thinking about keeping the manhunters over the War Dog just because they can do some work and contest zones. Also, I am thinking of dropping the Destroyer and Marauder in favor of two more Juggernauts. I the bombard on the destroyer did not do much to help with, well, anything, so I think upping my melee focus with another juggy is a sound play. And since I have the points to play with, I figured I would grab the other Juggernaut just cause I could. Let me know your thoughts.
Also, I need a second list to pair this with. This list will not be good against infantry spam, so I am thinking of either making a WGK theme with Vlad 1 or a Legion of Steel list with... well, I am not sure yet, as the warcaster. I would love to know your thoughts on these two themes, their anti-infantry strengths, and who to best run the Legion list.
Thanks for your help!
-Z
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Jun 9, 2017 12:40:49 GMT
You still have an option to drop Meks for the Dog  As anti-infantry default goes Vladimir1 in WGK. But you can try out Irusk2 in JotW as well. |
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Post by Netherby on Jun 9, 2017 13:09:52 GMT
I think I would be looking more at dropping the Decimator and Destroyer for two extra Juggernauts or Kodiak.
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Post by zerfius on Jun 9, 2017 13:16:31 GMT
I think I would be looking more at dropping the Decimator and Destroyer for two extra Juggernauts or Kodiak. Why the decimator over the marauder? I only have one game with either model and neither did anything for me within the game. |
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Post by zerfius on Jun 9, 2017 13:18:01 GMT
You still have an option to drop Meks for the Dog As anti-infantry default goes Vladimir1 in WGK. But you can try out Irusk2 in JotW as well. I thought about doing this, as I have played two games with the Jaws theme and the mechanics have either been wiped of the board or otherwise ineffective. Do you really think the +2 def from the War Dog outweighs the potential repair benefit of the Meks? |
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Post by Netherby on Jun 10, 2017 2:07:11 GMT
I think I would be looking more at dropping the Decimator and Destroyer for two extra Juggernauts or Kodiak. Why the decimator over the marauder? I only have one game with either model and neither did anything for me within the game. The Decimator is currently over costed by 2 points because it's in the starter box and they refuse the change the points values of those models. The Marauders combo smite is actually a pretty decent ability (you get to charge and line up the slam to go where you want when normally a slam has to be directly towards the model). Dropping the Decimator will also give you a few extra points to play with. |
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Post by schwenckenstein on Jun 12, 2017 3:17:09 GMT
Lose the decimator, take a destroyer instead. Also, I can't stress this enough: Buy 2 forge seers. They should always be 2 of your free solos, they are what makes this theme work.
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Post by zerfius on Jun 12, 2017 12:36:44 GMT
Thank you guys for the feedback. I played this weekend and did ok for my first tournament. I played legion first with... I can't remember her name, but the guy said both of his casters were the two best in legion. Anyhow, I did my Jaws theme into this and if I did not mess up a rule, I had a really good shot to win! But, I didn't, lol. The guy that beat me won the whole tournament though. Second game I played a Winter Guard Kommand theme with Vlad1. Despite my opponents repeated attempts to let me win by rolling terribly...I lost on clock. There are a LOT of models and I need to get faster. I think this game was also into Legion. Third game was into Convergence and I went back to my Jaws list because A) It is fun and B) there are fewer models so the clock is more on my side. My opponent made a major mistake concerning the rules that he did not seek clarity on from the judge and it pretty much cost him the game. I assassinated his caster, Father Lucant I believe, with Butcher! All in all, not a bad showing for my first tournament. I learned a lot and had a ton of fun. Looking forward to the next one.
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Post by tapecrawler on Jun 12, 2017 12:51:17 GMT
Congratulations Zerfius! You got a win and some knowledge while having fun. It sounds like a good day.
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