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Post by forgemaster on Mar 25, 2017 14:22:40 GMT
Anyone play a full Drudge 60 list? Three MAX Mind Bender Units and three MAX Mind Slaver Units? I was thinking about giving this a shot as I only need one more box of Drudges, but it did get me thinking. Would 3x/3x MAX units be best or 3x Slavers and 2x Benders with Alexia Ciannor & the Risen?
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Post by joetortillas on Mar 26, 2017 21:43:30 GMT
Got a local who used to play it. His consensus was that with the nerf to the drudge in Mk3, he simply prefers to play more beast than more drudges. Your experience may vary.
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Mar 27, 2017 1:28:08 GMT
im going to try 60 drudges this coming saturday at an SR. there is so little data of cephalyx use that i think first person experience is vital. going with:
Thexus Wrecker Wrecker Agitator Agitator Overlords Overlords Max Slaves Max Slaves Max Slaves Max Benders Max Benders Max benders
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Post by CodFather on Mar 27, 2017 2:43:47 GMT
Anyone play a full Drudge 60 list? Three MAX Mind Bender Units and three MAX Mind Slaver Units? I was thinking about giving this a shot as I only need one more box of Drudges, but it did get me thinking. Would 3x/3x MAX units be best or 3x Slavers and 2x Benders with Alexia Ciannor & the Risen? I've played a couple games with the 60 drudges, its a lot of fun. If you want to add alexia I'd suggest dropping a bender and a slaver to min, and drop an agitator. Your benders are your money unit, they are so flexible in what they do.
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Post by forgemaster on Mar 27, 2017 13:49:26 GMT
im going to try 60 drudges this coming saturday at an SR. there is so little data of cephalyx use that i think first person experience is vital. going with: Thexus Wrecker Wrecker Agitator Agitator Overlords Overlords Max Slaves Max Slaves Max Slaves Max Benders Max Benders Max benders I was thinking something like this with Thexus, very close to yours. conflictchamber.com/#b61b_Z07enememeiei6iejehehcjcjcjckckMercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater (Thexus 1) Exulon Thexus [+29] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10] - Cephalyx Dominator [1] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (max) [11] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (max) [11] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Overlords [0] Cephalyx Overlords [0]
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Post by necromeat on Mar 27, 2017 18:58:19 GMT
I use the 60 drudge list currently. It is very, very strong. I have used Alexia before and she is also really great in the list, I just chose more drudges for more adrenal flood targets.
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Post by Ajax on Mar 27, 2017 22:12:11 GMT
Doesn't it get really unwieldy to pack/unpack/move the 60 drudge list? Especially with Thexus who has no access to pathfinder. Just seems like a list that is susceptible to any kind of templates, be it covering fire, wall of fire, rough terrain guns, etc.
On an unrelated note, I got to play Thexus with a unit of Thorn Gun Mages and Aiyana and Holt last week. I'm loving this combo so far, it's one hell of a toolbox list, and black penny'ed pow 16's (+2 from Kiss of Lylyiss) on each of the TGM members is just so good for unjamming and even doing decent damage to Khador heavies. Would strongly recommend that people give them a try. I was skeptical at first, but I've seen the light.
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Post by necromeat on Mar 28, 2017 19:18:17 GMT
I have been looking at Thorn gun mages. They look neat.
To answer your questions, For the most Part I just kinda run through everything. There are normally paths that I can take if I snake through. With deceleration I am not normally too worried about blast damage or anything. I will admit, playing against lists that have models with covering fire will be some of your hardest match ups in this case, but that is what my Ossrum list is for. And my soon to be revamped Cyphon list.
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Apr 2, 2017 1:28:39 GMT
i got smashed my pMakeda today with the 60 drudge list. it was my first outing with the cephalyx. it didnt go that bad actually. he fed me molik karn qhich I killed on my turn. i managed to get pMakeda Tk'ed and ass end to my army but i couldnt finish her off. I was on:
Thexus wrecker wrecker agitator agitator overlords overlords max slaves max slaves max slaves max benders max benders max benders
unpacking was rough. I lead with the benders and followed with the slaves. the benders are super solid and flexible. the slaves are pretty lackluster outside of the ambushing unit. I feel that if i had a dominated ranged unit i could have killed pMakeda. I am going to try this next:
thexus wrecker wrecker warden agitator agitator overlords overlords max benders max benders max slaves max croe's cuttthroats with Dominator aiyana and holt with Dominator
I feel like this is more of a Mk2 list because croe's were super hot with TK casters. i am going to give it a whirl.
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Post by Ajax on Apr 2, 2017 21:02:30 GMT
unpacking was rough. I lead with the benders and followed with the slaves. the benders are super solid and flexible. the slaves are pretty lackluster outside of the ambushing unit. I feel that if i had a dominated ranged unit i could have killed pMakeda. I am going to try this next: You're going to want to lead with the slavers, and folllow with the benders. The benders are where the real money is at, with their buffs and sprays and stuff. Slavers are really nothing more than cannon fodder.
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Post by necromeat on Apr 4, 2017 12:37:22 GMT
Yeah, I lead with slavers as well. I find slavers to actually be quite the opposite of lackluster with CMA and the ability to grow their unit. But that is just with my experiences though.
I find myself thinking about Thexus and running him with out much infantry. Just to see what its like. Perhaps run 8 Wardens of something to that extent.
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Post by carey on Apr 6, 2017 11:14:43 GMT
Yeah, I lead with slavers as well. I find slavers to actually be quite the opposite of lackluster with CMA and the ability to grow their unit. But that is just with my experiences though. I find myself thinking about Thexus and running him with out much infantry. Just to see what its like. Perhaps run 8 Wardens of something to that extent. I posted my Thexus heavy list earlier (well, not really mine) but will happily shamelessly do so again... try these out: Thexus, 3x wrecker, 3x warden, Subduer, 3x agitator, 2x Eliminators Or Thexus, 2x wrecker, 3x warden, 2x Subduer, 3x agitator, Eliminators, A&H They are fun. Not the best possible list but fun. You can probably do a bit better if you go for 6 monstrosities and 30 points of infantry for a free unit of overlords. I haven't tried this as I don't own overlords (don't like the tiny models) I have played the 7 monstrosity list about a dozen times and have had one loss with it. It mostly wins via assassination through slam or Subduer net, or opponent failing their command check and conceding.
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Post by forgemaster on Apr 7, 2017 1:05:14 GMT
I thought about doing something similar with Cyphon. The Idrian Skirmishes are a cheap Nyss Hunter, only getting to DEF16 with Blur but still not bad with advance deployment, CRA, and Brutal Charge The Wardens are a bit pillow-fisted, but +2 from the Agitators and another +3 on Feat turn certainly helps. Not to mention they will have fun throwing things around. conflictchamber.com/#b61b_Z07faekelelelelememeieiei3GejMercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater (Cyphon 1) Cognifex Cyphon [+29] - Subduer [11] - Warden [10] - Warden [10] - Warden [10] - Warden [10] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Cephalyx Dominator [1] --------------------------------------- Another one I have been wanting to try out with Cyphon. Lack of Drudges but has a good amount of ranged options. conflictchamber.com/#b61b_Z07faekelemememeieieick3Gej3GejMercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater (Cyphon 1) Cognifex Cyphon [+29] - Subduer [11] - Warden [10] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Overlords [0(8)] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Cephalyx Dominator [1] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Cephalyx Dominator [1]
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Post by carey on Apr 7, 2017 8:50:15 GMT
Aiyana and Holt help a lot with the pillows, letting you push 3 pow 18 initials. It's pretty essential against huge based targets. Even against jacks, over arm 19/20 wreckers have a habit of coming up a few points short and Harm fills that gap.
I haven't tried them with Cyphon as I just don't find him inspiring. The feat seems amazing for monstrosities but I find I need consistent work out of them. Thexus' feat helps with getting ideal threshers on any infantry and fixing the alpha, which is the attrition opportunity. One turn of stat buffs doesn't seem really helpful except into jack spam that it out threats - and why do I need that when Thexus gives a Subduer or warden's base threat a 6" buff (TK you, TK me, feat).
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 28, 2017 13:21:50 GMT
These are the lists I'm running:
Mercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater
(Thexus 1) Exulon Thexus [+29] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (max) [11] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (max) [11] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (max) [11] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Overlords [0(8)] Cephalyx Overlords [0(8)]
Sheer weight of bodies is good, and MAT9 P+S18 with CMA threating 12.5" is even better.
Against lists that can break through this, like Cygnar, I have:
Mercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater
(Cyphon 1) Cognifex Cyphon [+29] - Warden [10] - Warden [10] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Thorn Gun Mages [9] - Cephalyx Dominator [1] Stockpile (Steamroller) [0]
Perseverance goes on Cyphon the whole game and he feats top of two to hopefully cripple most of their army.
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