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Post by necromeat on Mar 8, 2017 14:35:41 GMT
Hey y'all, I have been running Cephalyx since they were released. Only recently did I pick up Ossrum to pair with Thexus, but Cyphon will always be lurking in the shadows.
Figured this would be a good place for people to talk about ideas for Cephalyx and/or issues they are running into. <3
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Whiskie
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Post by Whiskie on Mar 9, 2017 4:54:59 GMT
Awesome, glad that you started this thread. I'm currently a Legion player that's planning on coming over to Mercs late this summer. Will be keeping eyes on this thread for tips!
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Mar 9, 2017 11:55:45 GMT
i just bought into cephalyx as my missing portion of mercs. I bought a full FA plus six heavies. We dont have a ceph playr locally but i will be playing thexus into my list pair first, followed by cyphon. I am starting slowly but i have lists. They are basic dudeswarm/heavy spam lists to compliment thexus/cyphon
Thexus wrecker wrecker agitator agitator overlords overlords max drudges x3 max benders x3
cyphon wrecker wrecker wrecker subduer agitator agitator agitator overlords overlords max benders x2 max drudges
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Post by Whiskie on Mar 10, 2017 5:46:31 GMT
Awesome man. I'm envious of your huge Cephalyx collection! Thinking of running that exact Thexus list. Have you played it at all yet?
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Mar 10, 2017 12:10:03 GMT
not yet, its on the painting table as i do not play anything that isnt painted.
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Post by necromeat on Mar 10, 2017 15:07:39 GMT
That is the exact Thexus list I have been running in MK3 thus far. it is very very effective and super fun. As far as Cyphon goes, He does work well with what you have there as I have run the monsters and drudges, but if you get a chance and you have the models, try out some dominators and merc units. They can make some very interesting lists that compliment his spells and such very nicely.
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Post by smartalek on Mar 10, 2017 18:34:14 GMT
I've been running:
Thexus -Wrecker -Wrecker Agitator x3 Overlords x2 (free) max Slavers x2 min Slavers min Benders x2 Thorn Gun Mages x2 -Dominator
The gun mages have been working pretty well, though I definitely wouldn't take them if the Dominator didn't give them tough.
What do you guys pair with your dude heavy Thexus lists? Currently I've been trying a Bart list, but haven't liked it as much as I wanted to.
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Post by necromeat on Mar 10, 2017 18:53:31 GMT
Figured I would also mention the dominated units I have used with Cyphon and my experiences with them.
Kayazy Eliminators: Two units of these can add 10 extra focus to your battle group for minimal damage. Its pretty awesome, especially if you are going Wrecker heavy. It is also pretty nuts putting blur on them, but watch out for blast damage.
Nyss Hunters: Put blur on them and they become very shooting resistant while also putting out some great fire support of their own. I found them especially useful for clearing out minor troops or solos that people will try to use to block your charge lanes of your monstrosities.
Joane and Herne: So this is my personal favorite thus far. The added fire power is nice, but the special action artillerist is excellent. Use it on a Subduer as its ranged attack is in fact an AOE. So using instigate and artillerist on your feat turn gives you an effective 14" threat range with RAT 8 that you can boost. I have used this for assassination twice now. It is the most salt inducing tactic I have done thus far.
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: Well, we all know they are good. I normally use this more for enemy infantry as Cyphon's feat kinda takes care of armor cracking. The +2 to damage rolls when shooting enemy units with Nyss hunters, psychic sprays or Emphatic Overload is pretty delicious.
So don't be shy, tell me your thoughts and experiences!
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Post by necromeat on Mar 10, 2017 18:58:17 GMT
Smartalek, I had Cyphon paired with Thexus but just recently began pairing him with Ossrum. Both are awesome, but Ossrum probably works a little bit better as he bring elements that Cephalyx are missing and helps against anti infantry drops.
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Post by Whiskie on Mar 10, 2017 22:52:34 GMT
What's the issue with Bart paired with Thexus? I was planning on that exact pairing but would like to know about any potential issues before making the purchase!
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Post by Ajax on Mar 11, 2017 0:40:57 GMT
What's the issue with Bart paired with Thexus? I was planning on that exact pairing but would like to know about any potential issues before making the purchase! I'm not who you were asking originally, but I'm also pairing Bart + Thexus, and I'm finding it to be a really solid pairing. The only real matchup I seem to have is Convergence, Iron Mother + ground pounder + feedback is just nasty for the pairing since there's no "good drop". Otherwise, I find that both lists in the pairing are great all comers with different skews. The armor + gun platform skew of Bart pairs well with the infantry heavy list of Thexus, and both have enough tools to balance out any bad matchups (say from 30/70 to 45/55). FWIW, the pairing that I've been running is: Mercenary Army - 75 / 75 points (Montador 1) Captain Bartolo Montador [+26] - Galleon [39] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [5] Dirty Meg [3] Lady Aiyana & Master Holt [8] Gobber Tinker [2] Mercenary Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Operating Theater (Thexus 1) Exulon Thexus [+29] - Wrecker [14] - Wrecker [14] - Subduer [11] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (min) [7] Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges (min) [7] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Mind Slaver & Drudges (max) [12] Cephalyx Overlords [0] Croe's Cutthroats (max) [16] - Cephalyx Dominator [1] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3] Cephalyx Agitator [3]
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Mar 11, 2017 1:10:29 GMT
Current pair is Ossrum/Blaze. I tend to run a constant and an experiment list. Ossrum is a mainstay. Blaze will get replaced by thexus once his list gets painted.
I'm playing sans dominators starting off to get a feel of the internal models. I have the entire mercenary line and 2 dominators so I'm ready to test.
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Post by foolishmonkey on Mar 11, 2017 13:07:42 GMT
I played two games tonight with Cephalyx, got wins with both of them
THe Thexus List I ran had the following
- Thexus - Wrecker - Wrecker - Subduer - Warden - 2 Agitators - 1 Unit MInd Benders - 1 Unit Slavers - 1 Unit Overlords - Dominated Croes - Dominated Holt and friend
Went into a gunny list with a MK, the two wrecks all buffers aligned wrecked the MK in a single round, (Feat some TK and then kiss and agitator.)
I'm really enjoying the faction. Love the models too which is helping.
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Post by carey on Mar 12, 2017 4:26:34 GMT
Currently running the 7 'strosity Thexus list Thexus 3 Wrecker 3 Warden 1 Subduer 3 Agitator 2 Dominator + Eliminators Hugely entertaining. Oh, and the main issue with pairing Thexus and Bart is that they are both somewhat dependent on Drag/Knockdown effects and a Steady/Sturdy army (eg Nemo3, Dorfs, some Khador etc etc) will neuter your best tricks. Merc casters that rely on push effects - Thexus, Gorten, Ossrum, Bart. Basically most of our A team, just something to consider when designing your pairing.
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Post by smartalek on Mar 13, 2017 22:03:25 GMT
What's the issue with Bart paired with Thexus? I was planning on that exact pairing but would like to know about any potential issues before making the purchase! Coming from Legion, I've been having trouble with a low model count list that is slow. Since I'm often taking the first hit, scenario is often a concern as my opponent can set the line of battle on my side of the table. Thankfully, my local events have been moving away from D&C so I can drop Thexus into everything that isn't Storm Lances or Sorscha. My current Bart list is: Mercenary Army - 75 / 75 points (Montador 1) Captain Bartolo Montador [+26] - Galleon [39] - Talon [7] - Talon [7] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker [4] Dirty Meg [3] Anastasia di Bray [3] Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [5]
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