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Post by chickenslayer on May 26, 2017 3:16:21 GMT
Hey everyone Not sure who'd be interested in something like this, but we recently did a brief cast on Khador, going over the casters, Fun Carriages and what-not. Hope you guys enjoy it.
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Post by maximumhippo on May 26, 2017 4:11:47 GMT
Breif? I suppose it might have been only slightly longer than your other episodes. In all seriousness though, it was a fun listen and I really enjoyed hearing you guys rip on Harkevich.
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Post by Netherby on May 26, 2017 10:06:46 GMT
Chris all over the pod casts now . Can we really call Hickling Khadoran? I would say he is more Sorschoran given he never plays anything other than Sorscha Edit: And after listening to the cast you are all totally wrong about Old Witch 1 and are going to lose horribly to her
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Post by skathrex on May 28, 2017 20:43:09 GMT
Well as a regualar I enjoyed it quite a bit, but its a love/hate thing with this episode. Love because all the awesomes that was highligted. Hate because now again I CAN'T F*ING DECIDE WHAT TO PLAY! I have about 10 Casters I want to play... Also Butcher3 doesn't really seem to cut it against GF except your opponents overextends Denny1 and forgets to acitve his Stalker in a bad spot
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Post by chickenslayer on May 29, 2017 1:00:58 GMT
Well as a regualar I enjoyed it quite a bit, but its a love/hate thing with this episode. Love because all the awesomes that was highligted. Hate because now again I CAN'T F*ING DECIDE WHAT TO PLAY! I have about 10 Casters I want to play... Also Butcher3 doesn't really seem to cut it against GF except your opponents overextends Denny1 and forgets to acitve his Stalker in a bad spot *Cough* Never in doubt Funny thing was the matchup is Cancer but for different reasons to what was first expected. You can RFP the leaders just fine in practice and the Wraith Engine is foiled by Ruin and Butcher sufficiently to not be super relevant. On the other hand, can't deal with those Firetrucking ghost pirates >_< Thankfully I bought the only Ghost Caine in the city for use by our Ghost Fleet player, else it'd have been even worse. Ironically the CID changes to the Wraith Engine put the Conquest back on the table as an exploder of Black Banes, so that's nice. And the random crit Devastation would be pretty funny too And, of course, +1 to go first is super rough. Still, never in doubt. Just Obliterate a guy next to Denny after putting random chip damage on her with a Combo Slam and GG EZY. Also, it wasn't shown on stream, but that same Devestator was later involved in a game of bulldoze-then-slamming a Lance over eHaley after Butcher 3 used his Blunderbuss to kill a Strong Lance that would have free-struck the clam jack. I got the assassination anyway, but I also Firetrucked up and didn't feat to throw an Obliteration scatter at a Haley in a Trench Lot of Plan Shovel this weekend
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Post by skathrex on May 29, 2017 8:22:07 GMT
Well, I can't any practicall experience because the only player in my local meta that is able to field Ghost Fleet is...well...me. On the upside I don't have to prepare for it locally, but since I want to go on quite a few tournaments farther away that might be a problem. Anyway my thought was to maybe just add more Rifles? (I mean when in doubt more Rifles always sounds fine). Butcher3 is our only caster imo that can bring WG-Theme into GF (thought about Vlad1, but he lacks the magic weapons to not get eaten by Blackbanes). Maybe Vlad2 can be tooled to fight GF. Thats a thing I want to try too Conquest as option for SR17? Are there enough objectives? Lacking the overview. Yeah Devestator is something I liked in the beginning and really shied away from. Not sure how much I like him especially since I will have a model that nearly does the same in the Fun Carriage BTW slamming things over Casters seems to be a Khaodr thing now. Slammed Old Roudy over Maddox last week at a tournament. Felt pretty amazing!
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Post by Netherby on May 29, 2017 9:13:23 GMT
Are there any videos of the event that can be watched?
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Post by skathrex on May 29, 2017 9:52:25 GMT
You can watch a few games here:
The Event
but its just on the stream the only game with Khaodr I think is the one mentioned before with Chris Butcher3 against Denny1 GF (Round5).
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Post by warriorofiron on May 29, 2017 15:18:03 GMT
So since we are talking about khador's casters and OTC was brought up, i see Chris brought vlad 2 and I have always loved him and our pairings are similar but my B3 list is alittle different, I'm curious is Vlad 2 still a good drop?
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Post by Netherby on May 29, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
Vlad2 is (in my opinion) the strongest all rounder in faction right now.
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Post by chickenslayer on May 30, 2017 5:22:11 GMT
Yea, for a teams event I prefer to run at least one caster who:
a) Can drop into Whatever. You see a lot of random shit at team events and sometimes you need an eHaley-esk caster who can handle whatever they beat to stop rounds being decided by List Chicken b) Can enact what is locally referred to as Plan Shovel: the subtle art of digging yourself out of a bad situation you've gotten yourself into, usually by killing your opponent or going for some big play. c) I am super familiar with.
Vlad helps with all such problems. He conveniently has a lot of meta-out's, especially against random cloud wall casters and huge bases. Arguably there's something more recent that can take his place but I couldn't find one I was satisfied with, so went back to him.
Anyway I think the best counter off the top of my head is pSorscha, primarily for the obvious (ie: Freezing Grip) even without access to RFP. The issue is that the lists to counter Ghost Fleet have to be built awkwardly due to the need for Magic Weapons. Also occasionally you bring Kossites and feel a bit silly, but hey, they do a good job killing the members of the Pirate units hanging out on the table edge.
Haven't really thought about it too much though, wanted to get this teams event out of the way before going back into Warmachine Science.
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Post by warriorofiron on May 30, 2017 12:01:27 GMT
I know we don't have anything set in stone when it comes to the fun carriage, but do you feel that under B3 it would allow for an easier way to deal with ghost fleet, as well as maintaining releavent for other drops? I haven't been able to test into ghost fleet as there are none in my meta so mostly all I have is theory.
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Post by auraco on May 30, 2017 12:42:08 GMT
Vlad2 is (in my opinion) the strongest all rounder in faction right now. I would argue that Strakhov1 also has it's spot up there. He is an incredibly strong general drop and pretty much struggles only against skews, incorporeal spam, super arm skew, infantry spam skew. He can deal with the rest.
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Post by smoothcriminal on May 30, 2017 13:09:56 GMT
Does Vlad 2 have a theme currently though? Legion of steel maybe?
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Post by welshhoppo on May 30, 2017 13:15:15 GMT
Does Vlad 2 have a theme currently though? Legion of steel maybe? Legion of steel would be hilarious with double Uhlans.
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