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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 25, 2017 7:47:31 GMT
Hello everyone! So i have been playing with Elara lately and came up with this "layered synergy" list. It has some janky tech to counter shooting and strong assassination play with Imperatus. So really curious do you think the list has legs? Want to hear your thoughts on it.
Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points
(Elara 2) Elara, Death's Shadow [+28]
- Banshee [18]
- Moros [11]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Dawnguard Sentinel Scyir [4]
- Imperatus [22]
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4]
Dawnguard Sentinels (max) [18]
- Dawnguard Sentinel Officer & Standard [4]
- Soulless Escort (1) [1]
Spears of Scyrah [9]
- Eiryss, Mage Hunter Commander [6]
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isotope
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Post by isotope on May 25, 2017 8:30:00 GMT
Hello everyone! So i have been playing with Elara lately and came up with this "layered synergy" list. It has some janky tech to counter shooting and strong assassination play with Imperatus (ppl wont expect Imperatus to show up next to their caster from 16-22" away). So really curious do you think the list has legs? Want to hear your thoughts on it. Elara, Death's Shadow - Banshee - Moros Arcanist Mechanik Arcanist Mechanik Arcanist Mechanik Dawnguard Sentinel Scyir - Imperatus Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress Dawnguard Sentinels (max) - Dawnguard Sentinel Officer & Standard - Soulless Escort Spears of Scyrah - Eiryss, Mage Hunter Commander Character Warjacks can NOT be 'Jack Marshaled (Prime pg. 82). Also... 22 pts on a 4 pt model is crazy even if it was legal. |
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 25, 2017 8:39:17 GMT
derp so true. made some adjustments to list.. why war room allows this happen in first place? Meh need to check it once i get home.
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tanan
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Post by tanan on May 25, 2017 8:39:54 GMT
isotope, that was true in MK2. In MK3, character jacks can be jack marshaled. Only colossal (character and non-character) warjacks can't be jack marshaled. Also, 22 pts on a 4pt model isn't crazy, because the crush order gets crazy good if you can provide free charges and/or focus for the jack.
For example, the Imperatus in the list does 5Xp+s23 attacks if you factor in all buffs.
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 25, 2017 8:44:57 GMT
Damn it! ;D
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Post by oncomingstorm on May 25, 2017 8:45:43 GMT
It says nowhere in the Jack Marshall rules that character warjacks cannot be marshalled - which section are you seeing this in?
Also, War Room lets you do it - not definitive proof, but in the absence of evidence to the contrary...
It's not as crazy an idea as it sounds. The Scyir can be quite safe, between Iron Sentinel and only having to be within 9" of Impy at any point during it's activation, and the cost if he does die isn't super harsh - the jack becomes autonomous, not inert. With Imperatus, you can load him up with focus from Arcanists, then use him like a fire and forget missile if you get a shot at the caster. I personally don't much like it, because it makes Imperatus a non-entity after the first turn of engagement, but it's not an intrinsically stupid idea.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on May 25, 2017 8:52:53 GMT
isotope, that was true in MK2. In MK3, character jacks can be jack marshaled. Only colossal (character and non-character) warjacks can't be jack marshaled. Also, 22 pts on a 4pt model isn't crazy, because the crush order gets crazy good if you can provide free charges and/or focus for the jack. For example, the Imperatus in the list does 5Xp+s23 attacks if you factor in all buffs. No coffee yet. I googled jack marshal mk3 and battle college lied to me. I literally copy pasted what it said. I still wouldnt do it though. |
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on May 25, 2017 8:54:49 GMT
Specially i really like the spears in the list. They can shield guard shot from sentinels and stand within 5" from Imperatus to trigger Drive and Vengeance move for Eiryss. And they do alright when charging target affected with Dark Shroud.
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tanan
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Post by tanan on May 25, 2017 8:57:07 GMT
The only problem with RoS jack marshals is that the faction currently lacks KD immunity buff (solid ground/superiority etc.).
* Not completely true. Marshalled Hydra can shake KD.
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Post by dagowit on May 25, 2017 9:37:04 GMT
The main problem I see is that Imperatus becomes a lot less efficient if you lose your 'jack marshal or - especially - the Arcanists (it can still do 4 P+S 21 attacks with free charges with +2 movement even without the Scyir). That means you probably want the Spears of Scyrah to hang out near these to provide Shield Guard. This makes Eiryss3 a lot less efficient
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Post by Kallas on May 25, 2017 12:22:46 GMT
The only problem with RoS jack marshals is that the faction currently lacks KD immunity buff (solid ground/superiority etc.). * Not completely true. Marshalled Hydra can shake KD. Take a Lys Healer? |
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Post by tanan on May 25, 2017 19:28:57 GMT
I forgot Lys healer  . G-man also heightened reflexes-upkeep. |
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. G-man also heightened reflexes-upkeep.