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Post by tesoe on May 11, 2017 20:04:05 GMT
I could use some opinions on a Hark list. I think it's fairly solid, but I'm wondering if it'd be better to trade the potential of three push shots a round from the Decimator for a War Dog and Kodiak it Juggernaut.
Also debating on the Devastator. I do love how hard to remove it is, and the infantry clearing.
Theme: Winter Guard Kommand
1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Kommander Harkevich, The Iron Wolf - WJ: +28
- Black Ivan - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Destroyer - PC: 14
- Devastator - PC: 14
- Decimator - PC: 16
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4
Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0
Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3
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Post by smoothcriminal on May 12, 2017 0:47:22 GMT
Mortar definitely should be a Field gun to help all those rat 4 jacks hit. I would even try to find points for second one.
I'd take 2x Kodiak just because passing up free cloud wall on Hark seems not good. Switch out Devastator and 1 Destroyer for them.
Hark doesn't want dog at all. If you have free points get more mechaniks or an artillery piece.
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Post by maximumhippo on May 12, 2017 3:34:58 GMT
Hark has no need for dog with Iron sentinel. Just have a destroyer/Behemoth hang around for him to keep buddy-buddy with. I'm going to second the Feld gun too, decimators are sad at RAT4.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 12, 2017 3:43:41 GMT
Also Drop Black Ivan and replace it with a Spriggain. Black Ivan just sucks and I think he always sucked this edition. Hes 19 points and doesn't even qualify as a BAD beatstick. Your paying for a boosted attack roll at ranged and that's about it. Like I never realized just how much I hated black Ivan until I really hit the "He's Pow 16, and a secondary Pow 14 attack doesn't help whatsoever".
At least the sprig can help with stealth and possibly your own clouds and such. At least then your getting some real POWER in the List thats also ranged. The sprig could go down a few points itself, but at least it will fill a niche.
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Post by tesoe on May 12, 2017 3:57:02 GMT
Interesting feedback, unfortunately I don't own a spriggan, or field gun, and only have one Kodiak.
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 14:49:38 GMT
I agree with what some others here have said. I have never been a huge fan of Black Ivan, or destroyers for that matter (Though destroyers have started to win me over lately). That doesn't mean you shouldn't play with them if you want to though, you can still get some work done if you need to!
That being said, you can only work with what you have. What people are getting at is that you might want some knockdown available to you to help the destroyers/decimators hit, (especially as your plan seems to include make use of broadside). Do you have marauders? They could be swapped in for some of your other jacks to give you a slam on a stick in place of other sources of knockdown (wouldn't help you in the same way a field gun would though due to melee range), how about a gun carriage? That would be another option for knocking down targets you want to more easily shoot at.
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Post by tesoe on May 12, 2017 23:02:32 GMT
I do have a Marauder and a Kodiak. Both can provide some easy knockdown. Thanks. I'll consider it.
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