My new idea with Strak2

Re: Ponies

So Ghost raiders and the ponies square off with the same attack vs. Def issues.  6 vs. 7.   But at CMD 8 a bit hard for blackbane not to give me multiple spray targets and, of course, I vastly out threat him (indeed, can easily stay out of threat range with Spray and Repo 5 - reaching up to 3 inches in should I wish to be completely safe.  

The Rev crew itself is not a problem I think we would agree.  Assuming you are using repo right it is likely those Rifiles are not getting the aiming bonus so likely 2 man CRAs....which STILL are a point shy of average of killing the ponies.

RE: Boomhowlers.  As noted in other thread. Stand up, tough while knocked down, Calcophy to shut down Denny Arcing something onto them.  Feign death.  I see a LOT of effort spent removing them for limited gain.  Not impossible and you ARE bringing dudes to a party where cryx LIKES to see dudes but again, he BEST make progress here and get a lot of work done.

Denny:  Well that is ALWAYS the problem (is it not).  But with quicken on Ponies you are threatening 19 inches (sadly needing 10s BUT there is a more than zero percent chance you can get that down to 8s with a back arc).   You have +2 def against spells AND have concealment so she likely needs a 17 to get the debuff onto you.....and Crippling Grasp in the case of the ponies isn't as crushing as it would be against something REALLY slow.

You can Quicken Bears for a 13 inch threat.  You can Quicken Boomies with a Zepher for 18 inch shooting threat and Valachev can disbind a spell should you need it.

Now there are other (lots) of options but at least 3 of them are questionable.  Butcher 3 has to play SO far back that it is going to be hard, over the course of the game, to take out the rifles and thus really leverage silence of death.   Never say never but it isn't easy.  As long as it isn't silence those rifile dudes are coming back and they scare Butcher more than stealthy strak.  Sorscha2 has shatterstorm (good!) but again is scary vulnerable to the ghost shots and as well has not real defense against shooting cryx for the rest of her army.  Losing Freezing grip is such a killer here cause otherwise....  Strak2 in theme just seems like a HORRIBLE idea with a 4/5 point arm swing on the fangs who will get murderated by charging/shooting pirates who will use them to fuel lots and lots of stuff.  Plus no magic (to speak of).

S1 is possible (probable?) because she CAN keep Denny back.  Even losing Fog benefit to ghost shots she will be Def 18 and even 3 man CRAs will need 11s.  Even under feat that 3 man ghost shot if they don't aim is looking at 9s.  Under Feat and Crippling grasp looking at 7s....which surely kills sorscha this turn or next.  But you gotta have a Spriggan for destealthing or it becomes MUCH harder.

Actually I think I quite like the idea of nyss, add ayana & holt and they can even take care of the blackbanes. Cycle Quicken and you can even get them up to a 24" threat range, so they'll be killing stuff before stuff can even try to kill them.

Well...you would need 2 Valachev...

my personal favourite is Nyss with Valachev and Quicken but thats a bit off topic.

Murderponies with Quicken sound nice too, but I am not super convinced with their Spell 6 and the fact that WG outranges them.

But another good Unit to try!

For Aiyanna and Holt magic weapons are Friendly, it's the Kiss that is faction friendly.

Unless you want to be very janky, in which case you quicken them and then kill Valachev later on to gain the benefit of both Quicken and Kiss.

Revenant rifles outthreat ponies, ignore los and concealment. That shuts down magical ponies quite hard. If they play 3x3 rifles you will lose 3 ponies from 3 combine shots before you even have a chance to spray something.

WGRC with Quicken should be better against Fleet than ponies. And you can have 2 units and rotate Quicken.
I don't see how Nyss are better than WGRC in this regard. Sure, they have 2 more def, but Valachev is so easy to kill for Fleet.

Cacophony idea is interesting, but I don't see how is it better than Orin. Maybe taking them both and protecting both flanks against debuffs is a thing.

Yes you do, Aiyanna gives out the magic powder and its friendly models, not faction friendly. 

Edity edity!

ah I get what you mean, if I'm kissing them then I ain't giving them magic attacks. My bad!