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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 11, 2020 8:00:37 GMT
Not a fan of his big ol Head. we'll see the actual model i suppose?
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 7, 2020 12:53:53 GMT
perhaps put these in the appropriate faction forum rather then in general discussion.
other then that. decent read on the battle report.
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 6, 2020 9:10:05 GMT
this topic has been a godsent for testing and listbuilding. though i am a dumb ol purist and will avoid putting in blindwater models like the plague. cuz...reasons.
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 6, 2020 7:58:40 GMT
Been ages since I posted anything, mostly been consumed by Star Wars Legion. Anyway there's a cool void archon proxy file on thingiverse which needed piggification. Wings from the base file definitely need to be thickened up a bit to survive handling though (just popped the second one off the printer, fingers crossed). charlzheimer i do still have that file somewhere, would have to dig it up tho. Would love to reprint that now since I've acquired resin printers since I initially did that i'd worship you for it.
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 4, 2020 13:40:43 GMT
that or Discord.
we should make a lormahordes discord?
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 4, 2020 11:01:03 GMT
That's really where Helga falls down, I think. She's good, but she doesn't do much "different" to Arkadius on the match-up level. She isn't as strong as Arkadius into the match-ups he's good at, and she gets punished pretty hard by the match-ups he struggles at, as well as a couple of extra match-ups beside. I guess I'd probably lean towards pairing her with Sturm and Drang? It's probably a strictly weaker pairing than Arkadius/Sturm and Drang, but it's probably the way to go. Alternatively, a Midas infantry heavy list might work, just to offer something completely different (although then I end up with double Dhunian Archons in both lists). I've been meaning to put some Midas lists I've been brainstorming up on the table for a while now, I just haven't because... I really don't like playing Midas, honestly. But this may be a reason to test it out just to shake up my pairing. Maybe I'll have a better idea with her after a few more games. I actually rather hope Azazello proves a good pair for her, it would be fun to only run Warlocks released in 2020 as a pair conflictchamber.com/?cb201b_-2mcUfy0M0Mfz0L0L0YoPoPfF0Ofl0OfljDMinions [Theme] The Thornfall Alliance [Midas 1] Midas [+30] - Battle Boar [7] - Gun Boar [8] - Gun Boar [8] - Splatter Boar [8] - War Hog [14] - War Hog [14] - Targ [3] Dhunian Archon [0(6)] Dhunian Archon [0(6)] Swamp Gobber Chef [1] Farrow Brigands (max) [15] - Farrow Brigand Warlord [0(4)] Farrow Brigands (max) [15] - Farrow Brigand Warlord [4] Farrow Valkyries [8] regarding midas unit army. this was something i had in the back of my head. perhaps a bit battle group heavy but i used to run a light wb army with midas and i love the gunboar splatterboar combo. also splatterboar gives you very accurate hex blasts.
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 2, 2020 12:07:58 GMT
that last write up sounded like a excrutiating long game. tough i am curious.
how did you like the sloan light spam in general? do you see this as a good list or?
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 2, 2020 8:00:34 GMT
Absolutely think the player is a big part. I've traveled to tournaments in very competitive metas some people are so far above me in skill level and just being able to see the field that I firmly believe they could have beat me with just about any list. It could also partially be that people were bringing their best anti-Harby tech to the WTC since you knew she was going to be there in force, and they just dropped that list against a not-Harby, so they weren't prepared. "i specialize in preventing healing" here's mah potato caster and his potato army lisT. "....firetruck"
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 28, 2020 15:14:02 GMT
I know. For me this list also didn't look like anything special. I was wondering if others would find it equally unassuming. And yet... i fought 2 identical harby paladin spam lists. both had 2 archons, 2 monks 2 champions, judicator and paladin units. i beat one (not easy though cuz Firetruck that list) and got stomped by the other like it was nothing. its very possible that the polish player is just that good of a player and able to play mind games as he plays a variation and not the staple. very firm believer of "its not the army, its not the models, its you" here.
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 28, 2020 13:19:58 GMT
I asked because that is the list that one of our top WTC players* brought to Polish Team Championships. His team placed 2nd and in a conversation he talked how the Shrine is a big MVP of the list and Paladin recursion is extremely annoying for opponents. So yeah, opinions vary *- by this I mean he hardly ever lost a WTC game that is great and all but. i see that list and all i see is "harby does it better without the shrine". hence i'd just...drop the shrine and try something else. i mean. i'm no "polish WTC player" and all that but. i don't see what makes this list with that tower so special. compared to the harby list.
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 28, 2020 12:56:50 GMT
Haha, not so weird that I'm considering playing Pig Infantry. To cross-post from the Helga2 thread, this is what my list currently looks like: Helga -War Hog -War Hog -Soul Slave Valkyries Valkyries Void Archon Void Archon Dhunian Archon Dhunian Archon Mire -Wrastler Rorsh -Brine Gremlin Swarm Gremlin Swarm Bone Shrine Warbeast heavy, but not battlegroup heavy. She doesn't offer much support to her army that I actually like, so I'm mostly taking pieces that I consider fine on their own. I've got a few games under my belt with Rorsh and Brine and I have to say that I like them a lot more than a Road Hog on Helga. I can't even say that I've missed Sprint, there's usually something Helga can kill without exposing herself. Still only a few games in though so absolutely more testing needed, but I'm basically at the point where I'm only spending Helga's Warbeast points on battlegroup models would the dhunian archons even contribute that much? aside from shieldguard what do they contribute in this force?
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 28, 2020 10:28:04 GMT
I'm actually less and less impressed with her as a battlegroup Warlock, and strongly considering taking some Lesser Warlocks. Expect to see a few weirder variations on possible list builds for her. Cav Razor Boars are certainly better than normal Razor Boars, but they're kind of a luxury item and there are too many things she needs. Valkyries are important enough to deliver her list that I would rather just find the extra point somewhere. Plus, Primed Valkyries are great in a pinch. considering you want a weirder variation. why not consider the idea of thornfall alliance. her feat could allow you to go and charge in with primed slaughter housers/briggands? rosh and brine do deliver alot of goodness on their own and molikpigg with sprint could be hilarious.
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 27, 2020 14:32:34 GMT
She's basically what I wanted when her spoilers started coming through, something pigs have never head in the form of a super solo Warlock. Good fun to play. I don't really see her having a strong competitive place (pending the CID at the end of the year), but she's good enough to be fun on the table and I'm happy with that. Wait, which one is the 5P model? 5 points? I'm confused. 5 part model. her model is a total of 5 parts. Also, she definently feels like she wants a battlegroup heavy army. but do you think cav razorboars could be a fun experiment?
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 27, 2020 13:32:27 GMT
i am legit curious for his feat because aside from strum and drang, all farrow warlocks have "TURN" based feats rather then "round". so i really hope that trend stays in place and he doesn't get a +3def dodge feat.
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 26, 2020 8:12:30 GMT
the more i see you play with her the happier and giddier i become to fielding her myself.
its wierd how its only a 5P model.
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