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Post by Soul Samurai on Feb 1, 2022 12:11:15 GMT
Yes I am.
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igor
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Post by igor on Feb 1, 2022 12:21:30 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Feb 1, 2022 12:23:27 GMT
Sorry, I didn't mean to be short with you, it's just the theme that I'm exploring right now and I want to stick with it for a while.
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igor
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Post by igor on Feb 1, 2022 12:26:33 GMT
No worries
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Post by Havock on Feb 1, 2022 14:52:05 GMT
Take doomies and Elims to start out with; it's a good enough base.
Doomies under her feat can and will delete battlegroups, eliminators combostriking will likewise be vicious.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Feb 8, 2022 2:25:33 GMT
I’m with Igor on this one - I think you want to take WGK. Other than herself, your lists don’t have good Iron Flesh or Shatterstorm targets. WGK lets you take both. Assault Kommandos are great targets for both of those spells. Arm 20 shield wall with an 11” advance? Yes please. And Shatterstorm works on the flamethrowers. And yes, POW 12 berserk weaponmaster are a thing, but AKs under Joe’s speech are POW 15 and will unload damage on feat turn. Also, under the Haley Rule, if you’re playing Cygnar I believe you can take both Sorscha 2 and Sorscha 0 in the same list.
Buuuuut, since you’re set on Wolves…
1. I’d really look for some kind of target for your spells. They’re good. Why waste them? Maybe consider Valachev as a free solo in theme for the unit?
2. Instead of Alexia maybe consider a Death Archon if your list is all about the feat?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Feb 8, 2022 7:38:28 GMT
I’m with Igor on this one - I think you want to take WGK. Other than herself, your lists don’t have good Iron Flesh or Shatterstorm targets. WGK lets you take both. Assault Kommandos are great targets for both of those spells. Arm 20 shield wall with an 11” advance? Yes please. And Shatterstorm works on the flamethrowers. And yes, POW 12 berserk weaponmaster are a thing, but AKs under Joe’s speech are POW 15 and will unload damage on feat turn. Also, under the Haley Rule, if you’re playing Cygnar I believe you can take both Sorscha 2 and Sorscha 0 in the same list. Buuuuut, since you’re set on Wolves… 1. I’d really look for some kind of target for your spells. They’re good. Why waste them? Maybe consider Valachev as a free solo in theme for the unit? 2. Instead of Alexia maybe consider a Death Archon if your list is all about the feat? I do have a unit of AKs sitting around waiting to be assembled, and I am thinking about running Winter Guard, but I'm not putting them together just for a single 25 point game. I'll get around to them eventually, just not yet. Nor am I buying a Death Archon - and my list is not all about the feat, if it's "about" anything at all it's all about the end-game assassination run. Shatterstorm is doesn't seem like a great spell in my "local meta" (i.e. the one other guy in the country who plays Warmachine, who is new to the game and who I am not trying to curb-stomp). Iron Flesh is nice, but is not great against Protectorate who hit so hard that +2 ARM wouldn't matter on single-wound infantry even if the faction wasn't full to the brim of Blessed weapons. And while I assume it's nice against the Judicator's blasts (they are blasts right?), I'm not expecting to face Judi in a 25 point game. Is Strak2 good in WGK? |
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Post by michael on Feb 8, 2022 16:13:40 GMT
I haven’t played Strakhov2 in WGK, so I don’t know.
I will say that Shatterstorm is a highly situational spell in any meta. It would be great if it gave out straight-up Magical damage type, but being a the way it is, it’s very very difficult to justify its use.
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Post by Havock on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:58 GMT
Why WGK? I can understand in higher point games but this is brawl.
What happens is you feat and plow doomies and eliminators in stuff and stuff dies.
Shatter storm is irrelevant, Iron Flesh is just there to keep Sorscha1 alive until it is go time.
That or you feat for the assassination. I'd take her in Wolves or LoS myself as well.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Feb 22, 2022 12:34:51 GMT
So I just wanted to mention: I just realised that Cyclone grants Parry for the duration of the Cyclone move, so the parry from the Wardog is less necessary. If I drop the Wardog from my list and downgrade Action Saxon to a Greylord Escort, that gives me 3 points to spend on a solo (which could be a 4-point requisition option like a Forgeseer or Valachev). I might still keep the dog though.
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Post by michael on Feb 22, 2022 15:28:54 GMT
It's been quite a while since I last used Sorscha2, but I found the War Dog useful because sometimes you can't cast Cyclone just for Parry. You might need to advance, avoid a free strike, do something, and then Cyclone away.
...Of course that could be my MK II memories of "Advance, Freezing Grip, Cyclone" coming back to me, so who knows!
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Post by Soul Samurai on Feb 22, 2022 19:19:58 GMT
Yeah, I figured it adds flexibility. Also I might just try using S2 as bait to draw some infantry and then freeze them ("Oops, I forgot you get a vengeance move! I guess Sorscha is JUST in range!"), the added def from the dog would help her survive that if I actually prove stupid enough to try it.
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Post by Havock on Feb 22, 2022 22:43:22 GMT
Cyclone doesn't grant immunity to freestrikes anyway.
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Post by michael on Feb 23, 2022 2:50:37 GMT
Cyclone doesn't grant immunity to freestrikes anyway. Psst. Yes it does.  “The spellcaster immediately makes a full advance, ignoring free strikes during this movement. …” |
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Post by Havock on Feb 23, 2022 3:42:02 GMT
Well I guess it has been that long since I played her.
My bad. Well that just makes the dog even less of a priority.
Take Reinholdt if you have the merc slot, lucky charm enables her personal assassination so much; by raising the chance of hitting, you also raise the chance of critting.
And a critted, feated target is pretty much dead.
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