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Post by khadorific on Jan 17, 2022 23:22:22 GMT
It seems like the 25 point Brawl format is getting relatively popular for folks still playing Warmachine, so I'm working on a few lists. Anyone care to offer any thoughts?
25 point - Brawl Theme - Armored Korps
Butcher 1 - 28 warjacks points - Adjunct 3 - Ruin 17 - Juggernaut 13
Bulkhead free Nyss Hunters 16 - Valchev 4
My thought was that you really only have enough points for one good unit in this format, so you should make it a good one. Butcher 1 likes helping shooty stuff like the Nyss, and if someone's dumb enough to get a heavy within their charging range, Butcher will help them rip it apart with ease. Valchev helps with zephyr movement, and anti-magic. Also, the adjunct can give eyeless sight to an awesome Nyss combined range attack on a good stuff with stealth. Expensive unit, but versatile and good.
I'd plan on getting aggressive with the juggernaut's advance because it's too dangerous for the opponent to ignore, and Ruin will vaporize anything good enough to kill it.
I'm in Armored Korps simply for the free Bulkhead.
And in the end, Butcher's tough to kill, and can kill anything on his own.
Thoughts?
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Post by Havock on Jan 17, 2022 23:53:43 GMT
You can't take Valachev in Armored Corps. He only goes in Wolves of Winter.
Here's my take: The Suppression Tanker keeps infantry honest and is absolutely murder under feat. Also holds flags well.
Shocks take Fury and IF equally well.
Both the jacks take Fury well, Ruin can be annoying with Vengeful.
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Post by leotherat on Jan 18, 2022 1:42:11 GMT
Another way to go would be with the same list except trade shocktroopers for bombadiers and the kodiak for either a Jugger or a Destroyer. Yes, you lose some ARM but you gain flexibility in terms of melee/shooting and you gain pathfinder. In brawl machine each loss is magnified so if you can hit your opponent first then all the better. So, if you have good shooting you can reach out and touch someone important and if you really want to hurt them pop feat. Don't forget that Bombers have CRA and if you get to aim you get 2 shots (2 max CRAs are RAT 15 [including aiming] and POW 20 3" Blast area is hit with POW 13).
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Post by khadorific on Jan 19, 2022 5:26:48 GMT
Oh, I see I can run almost this same exact list out of the Wolves of Winter theme by switching Bulkhead for an Ogrun Bokur. I just take Valchev for free instead of Bulkhead, and pay for the Bokur.
Any thoughts now? I just really prefer the Nyss to the Man-o-war because of their flexibility and mobility (in theory). I could be wrong though.
Thanks.
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Post by Havock on Jan 19, 2022 5:54:09 GMT
Just try it, it's brawl.
Also, mobility is cute but the AC list can basically be just a wall that nigh-imposible to kill for your opponent.
It's ARM 20 jacks, ARM21 shocks (or 23) and then there's Butcher. Most people just don't bring the armor cracking to deal with that.
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Post by khadorific on Jan 20, 2022 22:36:47 GMT
That does happen to be my favorite way to win...
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