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Post by custardboy on Apr 26, 2017 23:38:19 GMT
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 27, 2017 0:47:08 GMT
Oh sweet baby jesus where have you been all my life SPD8 Meat Threshers.
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Post by Azahul on Apr 27, 2017 0:55:58 GMT
I'm just blown away that they gave Commandos a way to proc Prowl reliably in-faction...
Sure, you need to run a 16 point model to support a 15 point unit, but that's still pretty incredible.
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 27, 2017 1:03:55 GMT
I'm just blown away that they gave Commandos a way to proc Prowl reliably in-faction... Sure, you need to run a 16 point model to support a 15 point unit, but that's still pretty incredible.  IT DROPPED IN POINTS COST?! |
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Post by Azahul on Apr 27, 2017 1:08:52 GMT
Yep.
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 27, 2017 1:18:51 GMT
Ok, I'm expecting it to lose on of the new rules because otherwise it's OP.
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Post by Gaston on Apr 27, 2017 1:57:08 GMT
It isn't OP once you run the numbers.
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Post by nirvanawn on Apr 27, 2017 2:57:40 GMT
Vault though at 18 pts its simple support isn't enough for the cost. At d3 is an issue with its offense. I will be testing tomorrow night but my guess is it really needs to be d3 + 1 to really work.
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Post by nirvanawn on Apr 27, 2017 2:58:04 GMT
Vault though at 18 pts its simple support isn't enough for the cost. At d3 is an issue with its offense. I will be testing tomorrow night but my guess is it really needs to be d3 + 1 to really work.
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Post by Gaston on Apr 27, 2017 3:11:07 GMT
Maybe. 2 Gun Boars is 2 Pow 13s for 18 points with no extra support abilities.
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dagowit
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Post by dagowit on Apr 27, 2017 13:19:04 GMT
Maybe. 2 Gun Boars is 2 Pow 13s for 18 points with no extra support abilities. For the sake of argument: They also get AoE, High Explosive, operate independently, and are guaranteed exactly two shots (I would much rather have ROF 2 than 1d3 on the Vault). What I had really hoped for was another in-faction buff ability on the Vault (much like the Thresher got 3" Concealment). If it got the "Warlock can take 1 Fury for a soul" ability from mk2, for example, I'd be pretty happy with its current incarnation. As for the Thresher, I think I need to finish painting the thing if these rules stay roughly they way they are now. I'm not sure I understand why it is 2 points cheaper than the Vault but I'll certainly start fielding it... |
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Post by gdead909 on Apr 28, 2017 0:15:03 GMT
The vault is placed into the support category of the battle engines. If you did not see the insider check it out. Its actually enlightening.
So in a support aspect it still has spell negation and can take control of models. Still feel like its lacking for the 18 points. The buff to rat 6 is good but I was hoping for the extra fury from mk2.
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Post by Gaston on Apr 28, 2017 0:49:17 GMT
Insider?
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 28, 2017 0:55:40 GMT
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Post by Gaston on Apr 28, 2017 2:37:51 GMT
Huh. Ever since the forums blew up I guess I haven't really looked at any of the official news stuff.
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