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Post by grampagabe on Aug 5, 2021 19:41:23 GMT
Hello all, completely new player here I'd like to run a butcher 3 list preferably jack heavy with atleast ruin and a few kodiaks. From what I've read jaws of the wolf is the way to go for this but unsure how to build out to 75 points from the battlegroup.any help for this noob would be most appreciated.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 6, 2021 13:48:41 GMT
Welcome to the game and the forums! I'm afraid it's a bit quiet these days; most of the traffic has migrated to other platforms such as Facebook and Discord. The good news is the Khador thread on the Warmachine and Hordes discord is fairly active, as is the Khador thread on the LOS Warmachine discord.
I'm afraid I can't personally help you very much with your question as I haven't played Butcher 3. I've heard he likes a Devastator or two as they are hard to remove. Marauders are great value and not focus-hungry, so a decent pick for a battlgroup where the caster isn't handing out a ton of focus. Of course the Juggernaut is the Juggernaut: affordable and hard-hitting. Kodiaks are good, but maybe not so necessary if you have Pathfinder as a theme benefit in Jaws of the Wolf? Sorscha 0 is always good for Boundless Charge.
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Post by grampagabe on Aug 6, 2021 15:24:48 GMT
Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to look into it.
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Post by steeltitan on Aug 13, 2021 18:19:58 GMT
Wait...theres two khador discords? Ive only been checking out the los one.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 13, 2021 19:00:04 GMT
Wait...theres two khador discords? Ive only been checking out the los one.
There's a discord that's literally just called "Warmachine and Hordes". The two are probably about equally busy, though I think it's mostly the same users.
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studderingdave
Junior Strategist
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Post by studderingdave on Sept 6, 2021 4:36:12 GMT
B3 is my current second list. I have prolly clocked more games with B3 than any other caster. I just jive very well with the style, I love assassination and threatening zones and such. Ive found the Devastator plan to be a very strong play in Jaws. My current 75 is:
B3 Adjunct Devastatorx3 Ruin Sorscha0 Beast 09 Widows Marksman Ol Grim Elims x2
ive been looking at Viskoya to swap out ol grim because the soul game is kind of off with all the archons. its a flex slot I think. Beast is also optional but i really like the shield guard matched with the house that his MAT murderous 11 inch threat on its own. The Devs can be kodiaks i guess, play the cloud game on the advance. The kit offers a 17 inch threat, 20 with vengeance. I tend to go for 30%ers and have nabbed wins off it but thats just a part of the game i really enjoy. I am comfortable throwing this into almost anything (the main list is pIrusk Armored Corps we have a huge local AC following to the point where its kind of a meme we have just doubled downed on). Problem matches are heavy spell denial and such but no list is perfect.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Sept 6, 2021 5:59:41 GMT
I like Beast 09, though it always feels weird to put such an expensive beatstick on S0 when you're running a jack-caster (even though, you know, he's her character jack), simply because you're losing out on your caster's threat range extenders. Do you find his ability to shield-guard to trigger an advance makes up for it?
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Post by Havock on Sept 9, 2021 21:47:42 GMT
I personally think Beast's just too expensive. Goes double on S0 because in a B3 list she's there to spam Boundless Charge, not load up a 'jack.
Hell, if you drop down to a Rager you can slot in a Death/Morrowan Archon, preferable the former, they are really good at keeping your screen/Butcher alive. If you don't like (shelling out for) Archons, you could just take Yuri2 and a gobber tinker/widget/min unit of mechanics.
Or put a Destroyer on S0 (pretty viable imho!) and take the underboss solo.
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