skurkious
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Post by skurkious on May 16, 2019 15:11:02 GMT
Does the electro leap generated off of a magic weapon have the magic damage type(ex Jakes2)? I thought not but was hoping someone could confirm.
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Post by Rork on May 16, 2019 17:22:40 GMT
Nope. Electro-leaps/lightning generator do not pick up the weapon properties they are on.
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on May 17, 2019 8:32:09 GMT
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Post by elmagnifico on May 17, 2019 10:18:01 GMT
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on May 17, 2019 10:55:29 GMT
Chain lightning also does not specify unboostable, so you can Boost those back rank hits!
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Post by Rork on May 17, 2019 20:47:50 GMT
The bounces from chain lightning etc. aren't derived from a separate rule like electro-leap, so they maintain their magical properties.
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smoth
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Post by smoth on May 19, 2019 14:14:21 GMT
orin midwinter has chain lightning and it specifies lightning damage...
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smoth
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Post by smoth on May 19, 2019 14:16:54 GMT
What specific model/unit are you asking about? Storm lances have a similar thing inthier description that says the damage is lightning
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Post by Rork on May 19, 2019 17:33:09 GMT
What specific model/unit are you asking about? Storm lances have a similar thing inthier description that says the damage is lightning This basically has two ways its breaks down: 1. If the jumps are part of the ability/spell's text initial text, the jumps are magical (i.e. it does not reference electro-leap/lightning generator in any way). 2. If the ability/spell grants electro-leap or lightning generator, the jumps are not magical (although the initial hit is). The units involved don't really make a difference as a result. So you end up with cases like Chain Lightning where all hits are magical, while Lightning Tendrils cast on a model with a magic weapon only has the initial hit as magical, while the leaps are mundane electricity damage rolls. It's not necessarily intuitive, but that's how the rules work.
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smoth
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Post by smoth on May 19, 2019 22:42:47 GMT
Ability/spell text matters
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smoth
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Post by smoth on May 19, 2019 22:43:30 GMT
What specific model/unit are you asking about? Storm lances have a similar thing inthier description that says the damage is lightning This basically has two ways its breaks down: 1. If the jumps are part of the ability/spell's text initial text, the jumps are magical (i.e. it does not reference electro-leap/lightning generator in any way). 2. If the ability/spell grants electro-leap or lightning generator, the jumps are not magical (although the initial hit is). The units involved don't really make a difference as a result. So you end up with cases like Chain Lightning where all hits are magical, while Lightning Tendrils cast on a model with a magic weapon only has the initial hit as magical, while the leaps are mundane electricity damage rolls. It's not necessarily intuitive, but that's how the rules work. orin says it is lightning bruh
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Post by Rork on May 20, 2019 18:57:48 GMT
This basically has two ways its breaks down: 1. If the jumps are part of the ability/spell's text initial text, the jumps are magical (i.e. it does not reference electro-leap/lightning generator in any way). 2. If the ability/spell grants electro-leap or lightning generator, the jumps are not magical (although the initial hit is). The units involved don't really make a difference as a result. So you end up with cases like Chain Lightning where all hits are magical, while Lightning Tendrils cast on a model with a magic weapon only has the initial hit as magical, while the leaps are mundane electricity damage rolls. It's not necessarily intuitive, but that's how the rules work. orin says it is lightning bruh Indeed. But the lightning damage type isn't relevant to whether it's magical or not.
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smoth
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Post by smoth on May 20, 2019 19:34:32 GMT
What is the context? It is lightning damage from a magic attack? What id your argument dude?
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Post by Rork on May 22, 2019 15:47:30 GMT
What is the context? It is lightning damage from a magic attack? What id your argument dude? Err, I'm not making any argument. I was merely responding to your comment about Orin, although what you were trying to get at may have been misinterpreted.
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gmonkey
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Post by gmonkey on May 22, 2019 19:14:05 GMT
Yeah - that's the way I've always seen it. Electroleaps and lightning generator are not magical, but a chain lightning spell is on every leap. That counts for Nemo or Orrin casting chain lightning.
Only 80% sure about the following: If Arlan or an objective makes a stormclad's weapon magic, the e-leaps still aren't. And leaps created through Nemo's lightning shroud spell are likewise not magic attacks. That is, they are not magic and also do not count as attacks.
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