jarrow
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Post by jarrow on May 8, 2019 7:38:19 GMT
I think Skorne is really painfull us and game goes easily to list chicken.
For my experience one list is ALWAYS Exalted with 1-2 supreme guardian and 2-3 units of Immortals. Casters are typically Zaal1, Zaal2, Zaades2 and Morgoul2. BoH sounds good starting point, as takedown reduce recursion. But can the list break Immortals on Zaal2 feat turn? Do Zaades2 feat prevent one turn? Do Morgoul2 just kill all our infatry with Mortality? Can those list be beaten by ranged attacks? Grim1 huge-bases? Grim2 riders?
Second list is most likely Imperial Warhost and some kind of combination of Animatraxis and beast brick. Morgoul2 again is common caster as well as Makeda3. Makeda3 makes ultimate breast brick with both high ARM and DEF while Morgoul2 gives more flexibility, is better against infantry and easier damage buff. Both casters have some tools to prevent our tough. Borka2 sound and option as he is good against beast bricks, but how will he stand against Exalted? I have tested that Grim2 can shoot key beasts to death even through skorne buffs, but I would not play him against sentry-brick. One big target is OK, but not whole line of. Possible against Morgoul2 but not against Makeda3. Grim1 wont have hitting power to chew all elephants/Animatrax.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on May 8, 2019 12:29:35 GMT
Madrak2. Feat for the immortals list and Blood Fury to get all the fast weapon masters into the beast list?
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on May 8, 2019 14:49:19 GMT
Madrak2. Feat for the immortals list and Blood Fury to get all the fast weapon masters into the beast list? This was the first thing that popped into my mind. Maybe Gunnbjorn with boosted sprays or high pow ice trolls?
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jarrow
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Post by jarrow on May 10, 2019 11:48:42 GMT
Madrak2 sounds quite good answer. Zaades2 can buy one round time, but you most likely will not lose scanario by backing up that turn as the list probably wont shoot you death. But what if I don't want to play Mardak2?
skurkious: what kind of Gunnbjörn list you think?
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Post by deathbymelancholy on May 10, 2019 14:00:00 GMT
I think he was referring to the one that is PoD (?) with winter and ice troll spam. I've seen it but can't find it for you. Sorry about that.
My main concern would be silver bullet issues. Madrak2, although a known quantity, can still flex pretty well into what he drops into. If you go too far into the "beat X" rabbit hole your going to REALLY have to cover a lot with that second list. Or be the dodgiest dodger that dodges.
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on May 10, 2019 15:12:57 GMT
Yeah I was referring to the PoD list with Gunnbjorn with a mauler and 6 or more ice/winter trolls in whatever combination feels good. The boosted sprays will hopefully clear a lot of immortals or stationary them at least. The incorporeal might be an issue but you could hot swap explosivo around and maybe bring a mist speaker. Last resort could be a stone scribe elder but then you're giving up the extra cold damage. If you go into double animantaraxes, the feat turn might help you survive and get some board positioning. Sneaking in a basher or two could be really helpful against their heavies if you can get the crit and if they know about it to be decoys(7 point lights are great!).
Its weakness is going to be dealing with heavy armor but if you can buy yourself time and get some lucky crits, you could whittle them down with the ice trolls over time.
Its something to brainstorm over anyway.
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