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Post by sand20go on Apr 26, 2019 0:01:17 GMT
Void archons in wolves. I havent really cared but with dark shroud and soul collecting I do now!!!! Can you sing pow 16 doomies? Sure you can !!!!
He is just silly with OW2 (or arguably Strakov2)
So he is filling up your Merc slot so that _IS_ a trade off for OW2 who loves, for example, Reinholdt. So that is good. And he costs 8 so he ain't cheap.
But SP 6 w/reach. He also gets to teleport (completely within 8) and then fire off a RAT 6 pow 14; 10 inch spray cause he has dual attack. He applies Dark Shroud. So you could EASILY see an assassination run (perhaps with Big B?) where OW2 goes ahead and feats, charges in, tags a caster with Scourge (3). Curse of shadows for chuckles (2). BC on the Void if you need it (1). Still one focus left. Then the Void gets to threaten 13 on the charge. Bounce off to 19 from start and hopefully spray down caster who is within 2 inches so now we are looking at POW 18 spray. Follow up with POW 18 shots from Big BB.
Feels strong ;-)
Edit - OMG - the spray can be boosted because it gains the soul off the thing it kills. It is going to have a HUGE red target on its head every game it is in. You CAN NOT let that thing live.
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Ganso
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Post by Ganso on Apr 26, 2019 0:17:57 GMT
hmmmm, I for one welcome our new Archon overlords.
OMG, that guy is like Ragman and an Escort had a lovechild.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 26, 2019 0:42:28 GMT
This is awesome at 8 points in that army. Wow yes.
Can someone explain to me why Soul Phase matters on a model with Flight?
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Post by sand20go on Apr 26, 2019 0:45:22 GMT
This is awesome at 8 points in that army. Wow yes. Can someone explain to me why Soul Phase matters on a model with Flight? Cause sometimes they don't have magic weapons. Sucks to be them ;-) He can essentially go kill something, spray, teleport and then go incorp. Seriously - he is going to cause HUGE amounts of Salt. LOVE IT!!!
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Post by Azahul on Apr 26, 2019 1:12:34 GMT
Soul Phase is Turn, Sand, not round
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Post by Azahul on Apr 26, 2019 1:34:30 GMT
To actually answer the question, the intention appears to be to give it the ability to disengage without taking free strikes. It's come up once in my games with it as an option, but one I opted not to take (I only had one soul, if I killed the engaging model I'd have two instead, and I needed at least one to boost to hit my intended charge target).
Most of the time it dies too fast to really get into situations where Soul Phase is useful.
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Post by mcdermott on Apr 26, 2019 1:45:25 GMT
Soul Phase is Turn, Sand, not round turn incorporeal, fly over a bunch of things without magic weapons ignoring free strikes to get to your target.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 26, 2019 1:46:09 GMT
Uh...folks. I think Vlad 2’s stock in WoW just went way the f*** up.
On feat turn, you’re talking two (because you brought 2, right):
SPD 9 with Flight MAT 10 RAT 8 DEF 17 ARM 20 Dark Shroud (in melee) Entropic Force (yeah, no tough, no removing damage) 2X effective POW 15 melee and Dual Attack with POW 16 (in melee range)/POW 14 SP 10
OMFG. I’m buying 2 and bringing Vlad to GenCon.
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Post by Azahul on Apr 26, 2019 1:51:13 GMT
turn incorporeal, fly over a bunch of things without magic weapons ignoring free strikes to get to your target. Yes, I mentioned that in my second post. It comes up. Not a bad thing to have in your back pocket, but it won't get used most games. Uh...folks. I think Vlad 2’s stock in WoW just went way the f*** up. On feat turn, you’re talking two (because you brought 2, right): SPD 9 with Flight MAT 10 RAT 8 DEF 17 ARM 20 Dark Shroud (in melee) Entropic Force (yeah, no tough, no removing damage) 2X effective POW 15 melee and Dual Attack with POW 16 (in melee range)/POW 14 SP 10 OMFG. I’m buying 2 and bringing Vlad to GenCon. They're still mercenaries, not Friendly Faction. Vlad can't Feat on them.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 26, 2019 1:56:01 GMT
Soul Phase is Turn, Sand, not round turn incorporeal, fly over a bunch of things without magic weapons ignoring free strikes to get to your target. Thank you. Somehow I always thought when you flew over stuff you didn’t suffer free strikes, because, well, you’d just fly a little higher to avoid the axes? Guess not...
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Post by sand20go on Apr 26, 2019 1:58:56 GMT
Soul Phase is Turn, Sand, not round Someday I will be able to be a close attention reader I missed that it is only 1 inch reach as well. ;-)
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 26, 2019 3:08:18 GMT
turn incorporeal, fly over a bunch of things without magic weapons ignoring free strikes to get to your target. Yes, I mentioned that in my second post. It comes up. Not a bad thing to have in your back pocket, but it won't get used most games. Uh...folks. I think Vlad 2’s stock in WoW just went way the f*** up. On feat turn, you’re talking two (because you brought 2, right): SPD 9 with Flight MAT 10 RAT 8 DEF 17 ARM 20 Dark Shroud (in melee) Entropic Force (yeah, no tough, no removing damage) 2X effective POW 15 melee and Dual Attack with POW 16 (in melee range)/POW 14 SP 10 OMFG. I’m buying 2 and bringing Vlad to GenCon. They're still mercenaries, not Friendly Faction. Vlad can't Feat on them. Well, yeah, OK damn. I had WotoF on the brain where the Archons are friendly faction... well crap. Still a cool model and worth testing/considering.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Apr 26, 2019 6:59:35 GMT
Before you all have an aneurysm: It's not Friendly Faction, so no shenanigans with Boundless Charge and the like, though it won't take up the merc slot, because it's called out by name. It also has 1" melee, so static 10" threat range unless you can abuse the teleport off the spray. It doesn't do a whole awful lot before it commits, after which it dies, unless if you're spraying like 2 dudes and then teleport back. He's also squishy and very vulnerable to guns, having no defensive tech at all. No, Soul Phase doesn't come up, it doesn't with Soul Hunters and might be "nice" in 5% of cases, but if it uses it to disengage, that means it somehow survived getting charged.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cool model, with decent utility, but he's missing something to make the 8 points, not counting towards free models and not being free himself, worth it. But hey, now that he's in Khador, at least there will be even more feedback on it.
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Post by Mr.Human on Apr 26, 2019 7:02:40 GMT
I don't think I will be playing it in my regular lists. He is to expensive and yeah, not friendly faction.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Apr 26, 2019 7:35:15 GMT
I'm confused. It doesn't say that it works for Khador here? I'm seriously not keeping up with all the cid stuff happening right now. How do we take this model?
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