Post by hocestbellum on Mar 1, 2019 12:13:32 GMT
I couldn't find the thread where this came up originally, but there has been a purple ruling on Alchemical Mask. HERE
For those not familiar, the text of Alchemical Mask is 'This model does not suffer gas effects. When determining LOS or resolving attacks, this model ignores cloud effects'
The debate was a) Whether it ignores the concealment granted by a cloud (True Sight ignores clouds for LOS but doesn't ignore concealment), b) whether it ignores Prowl on models in clouds, and c) whether it ignores things like Freezing Mist which state 'when in the cloud models suffer -2 to hit'
The answer is that yes, it ignores concealment from clouds and it ignores riders on cloud effects whilst making attacks. But it doesn't ignore Prowl, as the model will still have gained Stealth.
The logic here is that whilst they are attacking the cloud doesn't exist for them. But as far as the model with Prowl is concerned it still has concealment and thus gains Stealth.
That's pretty much how I thought it would work, and could be handy to bear in mind. Shame AKs are still pants!
For those not familiar, the text of Alchemical Mask is 'This model does not suffer gas effects. When determining LOS or resolving attacks, this model ignores cloud effects'
The debate was a) Whether it ignores the concealment granted by a cloud (True Sight ignores clouds for LOS but doesn't ignore concealment), b) whether it ignores Prowl on models in clouds, and c) whether it ignores things like Freezing Mist which state 'when in the cloud models suffer -2 to hit'
The answer is that yes, it ignores concealment from clouds and it ignores riders on cloud effects whilst making attacks. But it doesn't ignore Prowl, as the model will still have gained Stealth.
The logic here is that whilst they are attacking the cloud doesn't exist for them. But as far as the model with Prowl is concerned it still has concealment and thus gains Stealth.
That's pretty much how I thought it would work, and could be handy to bear in mind. Shame AKs are still pants!
