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Post by macmac on Jan 1, 2019 19:31:18 GMT
Heey. I just saw that chain attack wrote something about a battle box caster CID. It is a premium episode and since I'm not a premium subscriber I didn't listen to it. Does anyone know if this is factual or just wishful thinking? Thanks
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Post by ankiseth on Jan 1, 2019 21:31:50 GMT
They were just discussing it.
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mrtuna
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Post by mrtuna on Jan 1, 2019 22:46:46 GMT
Makes sense. Battle boxes are intro to the game. Poor trolls.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Jan 2, 2019 12:33:00 GMT
Makes sense. Battle boxes are intro to the game. Poor trolls. lol. I disagree with that mindset so much.  |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 2, 2019 12:49:25 GMT
I would rather they focused on fixing the themes first. One caster vs 25% of an entire factions models, I think the latter is more important
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Jan 2, 2019 13:03:41 GMT
I would rather they focused on fixing the themes first. One caster vs 25% of an entire factions models, I think the latter is more important Although true, it's not exactly an if/or sort of thing. They could drop the BB casters into the respective CIDs coming up for each faction and knock it out in fairly short order. It's not like any of them need too much work anyways. Trolls for instance get hit more for the beast loadout than anything wrong with the Warlock. And they are all basically like that. A little touch and done. I just don't see the BBs being that big of a deal. If you want to make things better for entry level play the JM league is more needing a tweak than the boxes, although I suppose the boxes could be the tweak that's needed there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by marke on Jan 2, 2019 17:24:55 GMT
I would rather they focused on fixing the themes first. One caster vs 25% of an entire factions models, I think the latter is more important I thought they were fixing the themes for two years now? Or did I misunderstood what you meant?
Sorry.. "fixing" ;D
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 2, 2019 18:09:21 GMT
I would rather they focused on fixing the themes first. One caster vs 25% of an entire factions models, I think the latter is more important I thought they were fixing the themes for two years now? Or did I misunderstood what you meant?
Sorry.. "fixing" ;D
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Post by sand20go on Jan 2, 2019 21:34:57 GMT
This is totally unnecessary. PERHAPS the LOAD OUT in the boxes could be tweaked (Paging Trolls on line #1) - but I would need more brain cells than currently I have to think fully about this.
Now what they COULD do (but NO NEED TO CID IT) is construct a good "scenario" for use in BB to get that introduced right off the bat. Too many BB games are a game of "keep away" as the BB's kite around the table shooting. I get that they don't want to include a "zone" in the mix of the box. So thus do something just the same - that you score "a point" if your model is within 6 inches of the center point and they do not have a model similarly placed. Would make the games much more dynamic and fun and since scenrio plays such a key role in current WM/H......
But if they do this - and suddenly we find that casters only avaiable in $40 boxes have gone significantly up in value, I will KNOW that they have jumped the shark.....
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Post by Charistoph on Jan 2, 2019 22:19:04 GMT
Something to keep in mind, that a Battlebox CID would not necessarily only focus on the Warcasters/Warlocks, but also include their Battelgroup as well. Some individual pieces of the Battlegroups have seen adjustments in CID here and there, but not as the collective of the beginner set.
For my own collection, Xekaar is not likely to see any CID in Theme until Imperial Warhost or Disciples of Agony goes under review, nor is Magnus likely to see one until Kingmaker's or Irregulars are addressed. I have Malekus, but unless I get someone to purchase the majority of my Skorne and Mercenary collections from me, I will not be venturing much farther in to the Protectorate's line in the forseeable.
And then there are the interesting situations for the lesser lines of Convergence, Grymkin, and the Crucible Guard. It is questionable, indeed, as to the amount of time before they will go under a Theme review in their natural courses, and their Battlegroups were even less designed for Battlebox games than any of the actualized boxes that exist right now.
So, it would be good to have them looked at, though, my breath will not be held for such a venture.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Jan 4, 2019 12:24:20 GMT
I've wanted a battlebox CID essentially since the battle boxes were announced. I really feel that the majority of Hordes armies got the short end of the stick when it comes to battleboxes compared to Warmachine.
I have a sneaking suspicion that PP decided on the points values for all the models first, then made the battleboxes, which leaves most of them looking a little wonky. IMO they should have gone the other way and made the BB lists first to make sure the models in them were actually balanced and on theme, then gone and done the points as necessary to make the math work.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jan 4, 2019 17:00:01 GMT
To be clear about a couple things:
1) Is this something that someone at Privateer mentioned or is it something that the Chain Attack guys were just speculating about?
2) I am also definitely in favor of new battle boxes with complete 25-point armies. Among other things, that would mean that the battlegroups don't necessarily have to be at exactly 0, but really, the game is very different at that level and it's actually a bit misleading. And it's harder to balance 0-point armies against each other.
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Post by ankiseth on Jan 4, 2019 17:08:49 GMT
They were just speculating about battlebox CID, there's no reason to expect it.
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Post by Charistoph on Jan 4, 2019 19:39:41 GMT
2) I am also definitely in favor of new battle boxes with complete 25-point armies. Among other things, that would mean that the battlegroups don't necessarily have to be at exactly 0, but really, the game is very different at that level and it's actually a bit misleading. And it's harder to balance 0-point armies against each other. I'm not, and the reason why is that should be limited to the Army boxes that they used to have floating around here and there. These could even be set up as Theme starters with the Battlebox having one Battlegroup leader, and the others with there own unique Battlegroup leader who may not be the best for that Theme, but be a decent choice. |
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