Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants.

schostoppa1
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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 15, 2017 14:21:33 GMT via mobile

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Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 15, 2017 14:21:33 GMT

So im fiddling around with a couple versions of my Gaspy3 Infernal Machine list and was wondering everyones thoughts.
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Cryx - Gaspy3 Infernal Machines #1

Theme: Infernal Machines
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Asphyxious the Hellbringer - WJ: +24
- Vociferon
- Inflictor - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Inflictor - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Seether - PC: 13

Bloat Thrall - PC: 0
Bloat Thrall - PC: 0

Carrion Thralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
Carrion Thralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls - Necrosurgeon & 3 Grunts: 0
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls - Necrosurgeon & 3 Grunts: 4
Mechanithralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
- Skarlock Commander - PC: 3
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
Mechanithralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Skarlock Commander - PC: 3

THEME: Infernal Machines
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GENERATED : 04/15/2017 09:01:55
BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16

I played a couple games with this list into khador. instead of the seether i had a 3rd inflictor. I really liked the ambushing mechanithrall squad. paired with the other AD deployed and fast carrions i feel like i can collapse the board and limit the movement options of the opponent really well. A couple things i felt that lacked were that the list felt pillowfisted and my necrosurgeons didnt really contribute as much as id like. But the bloat thralls and carrion were a surprising combo. especially after the bloats pinged MOW and the carrions got 4 dice on the charge with finisher were surprisingly threatening. Side note. Inflictors behind cover for def17 ARM19 shield guards with hyper aggressive are really fun. Hoping next time the new seether will be able to pick up the heavy hitting slack. Countercharge and hyper aggressive seem like a possible good combo in the right situation.

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Cryx - Gaspy3 Infernal Machine #2

Theme: Infernal Machines
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Fuel Cache - Steamroller Objective

Asphyxious the Hellbringer - WJ: +24
- Vociferon
- Inflictor - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Inflictor - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Seether - PC: 13

Bloat Thrall - PC: 0
Bloat Thrall - PC: 0
Bloat Thrall Overseer Mobius - PC: 6
Necrotech - PC: 2
Necrotech - PC: 2

Carrion Thralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
Mechanithralls - Leader & 5 Grunts: 6
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Skarlock Commander - PC: 3
Mechanithralls - Leader & 5 Grunts: 6
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
- Skarlock Commander - PC: 3
- Brute Thrall - PC: 2
Carrion Thralls - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10

THEME: Infernal Machines
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GENERATED : 04/15/2017 09:08:26
BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16

The next version of this list is the one im considering to try next. Its more of a fire and forget approach. I put the meachanithrall squads down to mins and maxed out the brutes. Added a couple necrotechs and mobious. The line of thinking is that because the necrosurgeons lacked behind abushung and AD thralls to just drop them and eat the casualties. Rely on the ambush and jamming carrions to perform dedicated swarm strikes on my targets. With mobious one of my bloats with always be rat 6 and i will get a 3rd plate dropped potentially spreading the finisher use on my carrions. the necrotechs are there to keep my shield guards as close to max capacity as possible. plus having a slew of scrap thralls as a free follow up is always welcome as at the very least zone/flag contesters.

So pretty much asking all of you your thoughts on my direction im headed. As a last nite i think for both lists i prefer to go second. Less ground to cover is always good for a list with virtually no pathfinder/ghostly. Plus i can counter deploy to maximize my threat potential.

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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 15, 2017 21:37:06 GMT

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Post by citadel on Apr 15, 2017 21:37:06 GMT

How have you been managing the seether countercharge vs the hyperaggro? Any formations you like to roll out with? Also, how have the necrosurgeons been? I feel like they're a trap. I just can't get over the recursion change. I use slayers with G3 to help alleviate the same sense of pillowfistedness, but if my opponent detects it and eliminates them quickly, its not good. They generally regard slayers as "10 point jacks" and not mat7 potential ps22s with 16 followups.

Glad to see you're using bloat thralls. I've been plugging them into INF lists but not with Gaspy3 - totally makes sense though. Carrion work with him so well, and using the aoe for setting up the finisher is something I am trying with Scavenger spam. Here's what I've been trying without Bloats but I might replace a WWS with one after seeing yours-

Gaspy3
- Voc
- Inflictor
- Inflictor
- Slayer
- Slayer

WWS (free)
WWS (free)
MWraith
MWraith
Max Carrion
Min McThrall
- Brute
- Brute
- Brute
Max Soul Hunters
Darragh

schostoppa1
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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 15, 2017 22:47:25 GMT

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Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 15, 2017 22:47:25 GMT

Apr 15, 2017 21:37:06 GMT citadel said:

How have you been managing the seether countercharge vs the hyperaggro? Any formations you like to roll out with? Also, how have the necrosurgeons been? I feel like they're a trap. I just can't get over the recursion change. I use slayers with G3 to help alleviate the same sense of pillowfistedness, but if my opponent detects it and eliminates them quickly, its not good. They generally regard slayers as "10 point jacks" and not mat7 potential ps22s with 16 followups.

Glad to see you're using bloat thralls. I've been plugging them into INF lists but not with Gaspy3 - totally makes sense though. Carrion work with him so well, and using the aoe for setting up the finisher is something I am trying with Scavenger spam. Here's what I've been trying without Bloats but I might replace a WWS with one after seeing yours-

I havent managed the hyper aggressive with a counter charge yet. my first couple games were with 3 inflictors and tgats what prompted me to trade one for a seether. I have the same concerns of trap models with the necrosurgeons. They have trouble keeping up with ambush and AD. So thats why i vhanged the list to my ver2 to experiment with The bloat thralls have performed pretty well so far too. So thats also why i figured mobius cant be a bad include. I went for bloats rather than thw WWS because i figured a 4" autocorrosion to set up carrions and clear zones is worth more than the focus or spray output.

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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 15, 2017 22:57:23 GMT

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Post by Deller on Apr 15, 2017 22:57:23 GMT

Honestly I'd probably drop the Skarlock Commander from the Ambushing unit. The AD benefit is irrelevant and the CMD increase, while nice isn't really needed when you have no plans to make the unit huge with recursion. Personally I think McThralls are crap this edition, the reason to run the unit is the fact that Brute Thralls are amazing. I honestly think Necrosurgeons are a complete waste of points, even when they're free since they're preventing you from using your free slots on better models like Sirens or Bloats. For these reasons I think your second list is much better than the first.

schostoppa1 Junior Strategist Posts: 134	Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 16, 2017 1:50:02 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 16, 2017 1:50:02 GMT Thats a good thought. i had originally thought of using it to spread out the ambush unit as much as possible. Increasing target options.

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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 16, 2017 3:13:57 GMT

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Post by Deller on Apr 16, 2017 3:13:57 GMT

Also I feel it's important to note that due to your Jack load out being 39 points and Asphyxious3 having 24 Jack points i your second list spends all of its not free points on thralls you get 3 free solos instead of just 2. I say this because it's currently possible to rewrite your second list so that the list being completely unchanged gets 3 free solos by spending the free slots on the two Necrotechs & one bloat instead of on two bloats. It makes no difference, but if you're looking to model swap I feel like it's good to know you can totally play list two exactly as is and sub out one or both Necrotechs for other free options like Sirens if needed.

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Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 16, 2017 20:11:52 GMT

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Post by Cookielol on Apr 16, 2017 20:11:52 GMT

Thoughts on this list?

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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Infernal Machines

!!! You are using a pre-release theme.

(Asphyxious 3) Asphyxious the Hellbringer [+24]
- Deathripper [6]
- Inflictor [13]
- Leviathan [16]
- Reaper [13]
Machine Wraith [2]
Machine Wraith [2]
Necrotech [2]
Pistol Wraith [0(5)]
Pistol Wraith [0(5)]
Carrion Thralls (max) [10]
Mechanithralls (max) [10]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
Mechanithralls (max) [10]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]

EDIT - I play SRs so this list has a focus on Scenario/Attrition. I figure the Leviathan can put pressure long range along with the PWs. The AD Thralls can help capture a point with the Carrions and the Ambush unit can throw some pressure on a weak side for a turn or two.

Last Edit: Apr 16, 2017 20:14:39 GMT by Cookielol

Gamingdevil The Sky Fell Posts: 1,524	Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants. Apr 18, 2017 6:48:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Gamingdevil on Apr 18, 2017 6:48:44 GMT I feel like if you're relying on thralls so much, an arc node isn't a luxury. Getting that Calamity out when you need it could really help them out.

Gaspy3 Infernal Machine Variants.

Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 15, 2017 14:21:33 GMT

Post by citadel on Apr 15, 2017 21:37:06 GMT

Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 15, 2017 22:47:25 GMT

Post by Deller on Apr 15, 2017 22:57:23 GMT

Post by schostoppa1 on Apr 16, 2017 1:50:02 GMT

Post by Deller on Apr 16, 2017 3:13:57 GMT

Post by Cookielol on Apr 16, 2017 20:11:52 GMT

Post by Gamingdevil on Apr 18, 2017 6:48:44 GMT