Asphyxious3 vs cygnar&evles

Something like
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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Infernal Machines

!!! You are using a pre-release theme.

(Deneghra 3) Deneghra, the Soul Weaver [+27]
- Deathripper [6]
- Leviathan [16]
- Leviathan [16]
- Skarlock Thrall [4]
Bloat Thrall [4]
Iron Lich Overseer [0(5)]
- Seether [13]
Pistol Wraith [0(5)]
Soul Trapper [1]
Soul Trapper [1]
Warwitch Siren [4]
Warwitch Siren [4]
Mechanithralls (min) [6]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]
Soulhunters (max) [18]

key features are mortality, ILO Seether and Soulhunters with ghostly

DJ is too expensive while still quite fragile jack. And there is no solid spell for him, maybe except Hex Blast for dispels. But it works only on direct hits -> no dispels on stealth units. What is Darragh role? -2 STR can't really stop Trollblood or Farrow havies from wrecking your face, +1 won't work for satyxis, Hellfire without boosting dmg is poor, in my opinion.
Well, 17 def heavy at least has a chance not being hit by aiming Defender. 6 rat + 2 aiming + 3d6 is 18.5 in average, so i have ~40% to dodge the attack.

Personally, I have always been a fan of a Kraken with Asphyxious 3, though deathjack would be a good choice too. Field Marshall unyielding gets a lot of milage on a colossal. Though against Ret and Cygnar who favor more shooting, it might not matter.

Both Hellfire and Hex Blast are awesome spells for him to cast, but mostly he is our best beat stick, hands down. I really dislike the Kraken because of its MAT 6, Deathjack basically never needs to boost to hit and has an output of up to 7 POW 18 (20) attacks + a POW 15 (17).

You are greatly underestimating Darragh, Magic Ability 7, POW 14 is enough to kill DEF 14 or lower, ARM 16 or lower solos quite easily, which he can also do after killing something in melee. -2 damage (also on shooting if in range) is definitely enough to make a difference coupled with Unyielding, especially when creating the "damned if you do, damned if you don't"-situation with your feat. Effective DEF 15/ARM 23 with Starcrossed is basically impossible for Trollbloods to kill, except if they succeed in knocking you down. On top of that, he is really hard to remove, so he usually sticks around until the end-game where he finishes of solos and contests zones/flags.
Agreed that Death Ride isn't really useful in the list, except to give Asphyxious a 13" threat range when you really need it (awesome post-feat).

Keep in mind that it's also relatively hard to protect Gaspy from shooting, since he's on a medium base and both Dig-In and Submerge don't block LoS, so even though your army is relatively hard to shoot, your caster isn't.

You're right about the Defender, but those 60% hits will still take an arm off on ARM 18. Asphyxious 3 is pretty good against all sorts of melee lists (even most non-Hordes surprisingly) and low POW shooting, but I don't think high quality shooting like Cygnar and Retribution is his forte.

On your idea of Helldivers, I actually tried it in an early version of my list, as expected they are great at popping up to contest/control and be hard to dislodge, being at either DEF or ARM 17 (shooting/melee), but they still didn't do much, so I stopped playing it, definitely still consider it a decent option though.

If you really want to play it into shooting, I would suggest something like 

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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points



(Asphyxious 3) Asphyxious the Hellbringer [+24]

- Barathrum [15]

- Cankerworm [9]

- Inflictor [13]

- Inflictor [13]

- Stalker [8]

Machine Wraith [2]

Machine Wraith [2]

Soul Trapper [1]

Wrong Eye [17]

Satyxis Raiders (max) [16]

- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch [3]


Machine Wraiths and Inflictors can tag-team to take shots and render the lightning ineffective. Barathrum is always a solid heavy, Cankerworm is great with Asphyxious, Stalker with Mobility can threaten assassinations if your opponent is careless.
My worry is that the Inflictors are a little pillow fisted.

Kraken is only decent when you hit nothing but Khador heavies. 12 def makes him sweat even with WSC Puppet Master, and his rules make him wanting kill living models, preferably in melee and in numbers. That's why he really shines with Infernal Machine or Dark Guidance in first place.

In the spirit of playing into cygnar and ret, ill add in my list. The list isn't gaspy3 so I apologize prehand if he is who you are set on.

Coven
Barathrum
2x ripjaw

machine wraith
gorman
aiakos and double stalker
satyxis and ua
gunslingers x 2
min biles and skarlock commander

I waffle between aiakos package and malice with ragman or the wraith engine(which soaks up a lot of electro leaps)
The key pieces are the feedback pieces and the biles. Go second, feat turn one and move everything as far as possible up the table in a safe position. Your opponent than either has to give up a lot or fall behind in scenario. The biles have been mvps for me in most my games. People jam them and then I just ghost walk them into perfect positions to clear any jamming infantry.
The machine wraith hits the lowest armor jack and walks it forward (ideally) and turns it around. I can then reduce its armor if needed with CoS and rust from gorman. This allows the gunslingers to put up to 12 feedback damage onto the caster (I average around 8 so far). The rest of the raiders and barathrum go in and feedback as much as they can on top of this. This usually opens their caster up to a stygian assassination that turn or the turn after. Just make sure you've kept an arc node far enough back to be safe.

Hope this helps!